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  • #16
    Originally posted by Kap View Post
    There is nothing on fire with the world. We had plenty of cold ass weather this year for our winter. -30 and colder. Weather depends on the gulf stream, go yell at it you little whiny German kid. There is plenty of crap out there that has shown "scientists" can be influenced by money and political stance in order to make up shit and influence others. The Earth already goes through patterns of change either it be hot or cold. If you truly think humans are the sole reason for change, you are wrong and paranoid. And as far as I know, if you want to cry about it, you better get rid of the vehicle you drive, otherwise you're nothing but another hypocrite.

    Bold part : it's not a matter to think if humans are the sole reasons. They are obviously not
    The matter is to know if they are the main/principal reason of actual changes or not and if human activities effects are drowned as background noise under the consequences of natural patterns
    That's where the debate differs

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    • #17
      Thing I don't get is rocketing CO2 and languishing temp increase.
      You have Pinatubo eruption. Immediately a 1 to 2 degree cooling.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by primer View Post
        Thing I don't get is rocketing CO2 and languishing temp increase.
        You have Pinatubo eruption. Immediately a 1 to 2 degree cooling.
        CO2 is a warehouse effect gas. Like a few others it blocks the reflection of IR from the ground to the space and keep a percentage of normaly reflected IR rays into the atmosphere.
        Pinatubo emitted CO2 / SH2 ect but also a lot and lot of ashes particles. The cooling was due to the massive particle emission that blocked the sun rays (and thus IR energy) to reach the lower atmosphere

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Kap View Post
          There is nothing on fire with the world. We had plenty of cold ass weather this year for our winter. -30 and colder. Weather depends on the gulf stream, go yell at it you little whiny German kid. There is plenty of crap out there that has shown "scientists" can be influenced by money and political stance in order to make up shit and influence others. The Earth already goes through patterns of change either it be hot or cold. If you truly think humans are the sole reason for change, you are wrong and paranoid. And as far as I know, if you want to cry about it, you better get rid of the vehicle you drive, otherwise you're nothing but another hypocrite.
          Are you blinkered or what? We had nothing like I know from my youth. Today we'll get around 30°C in some areas. In the middle of April! The Gulf Stream is of course relevant but it's by far not the only important "driver" and I'm presumably about your age you child. Sure, but please ask yourself who is able and willing to spend more money to influence the outcome? Besides that I doubt that political stance actually gets in the way of real scientists. They're interested in the research and outcome and not which party or what ever it may suit. Of course there always were warmer and colder periods. The thing is that what currently is going on doesn't actually fits into the pattern we could observe over the last 400k years. I never said that humans are the sole reason as Mordoror already pointed out. Cars or for the matter anything driven by fossil fuels surely aren't good but my car is by far below the emission limits and even if I'd remove the main catalyser it would presumably still pass the test. I can't deny that I'm part of the problem here but the impact of a single car to global warming is neglectable.

          Your post in general shows me that you're quite simple minded. You know about some of the relevant things casually but have no real clue what you're actually talking about and how to put things in relation. Sometimes I wish I could be that simple minded, too. Makes life much easier obviously.

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          • #20
            We've coined a new word..."Sprinter". Spring/Winter. And we're on the Mason-Dixon Line.



            It’s the coldest and snowiest April on record near the Great Lakes, and residents are ‘fuming

            The Upper Midwest and Great Lakes have never seen an April like this. Extreme winter conditions have refused to relent even into the month’s second half, testing the patience of local residents.
            Scores of records for both snow and cold have fallen. Minneapolis; Madison, Wis.; and Marquette, Mich., are among the many towns and cities experiencing their coldest-ever April. And Minneapolis; Sioux Falls, S.D.; and Green Bay, Wis., were recently dealt record snowfalls for the month.
            And, with the wintry pattern lingering for a few more days, more records for extreme winter weather are likely to fall.
            Winter weather advisories and winter storm warnings stretch from southwest South Dakota to southeast Wisconsin Wednesday as the latest storm dumps several additional inches of the snow on the winter-fatigued region.

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.0e74108e9f12

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            • #21
              We have sprummer here in Southern-Bavaria today 25 ° C and rising to 27 ° C on the weekend.

              I like !!


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