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    a kind of cross between archeology and paleontology and Science Mordoror of interest to you no doubt as this is a similar example of dating prehistoric events tied to human history (which I have posted here many times as example of failed science in the Lewisville lake site, Texas archelogy), which based on current technology, is lacking and may eventually be improved.....but based on only what technology/science can currently provide

    https://phys.org/news/2017-12-ancien...te-humans.html

    dated 26 Dec 2017
    A California mastodon with associated stone tools, dated using a new technology returns a date of 130,000 YBP for human activity in California, by far outstripping the current date of about 13,000 YBP. the date and science rebuffed by leading archeologists in US.
    So what are we to believe??

    The research at the Cerutti site, Dillehay said, doesn't rule out the possibility that a debris or mudflow carried the cobblestones to the scene, nor does it take into account that patterns on the stones might have been caused by the rocks bumping against one another in a fast-flowing river.
    "When you put the total package together," he said, "there's certainly more evidence to reject than accept it."


    Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2017-12-ancien...umans.html#jCp
    the rest at the link. This is exciting stuff to me, though I am inclined to still believe the 15,000 YRS Before present. hunter gathers at 130,000 YBP on earth is not far fetched, just in the Americas it seems outlandish.

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    I know one group that will agree, Native Americans.

    Paces concluded that the bones were 130,700 years old, plus or minus 9,400 years. The specificity was stunning.

    Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2017-12-ancien...umans.html#jCp


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      Very interesting indeed. Earlier science wrong? Wouldn't surprise me at all.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by riderboy View Post
        Very interesting indeed. Earlier science wrong? Wouldn't surprise me at all.
        Yes, the "bone lickers" so-called by Native Americans, were wrong about Kennewick man.

        https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...ial-180958947/
        Throughout the long battle, Native American leaders never doubted Kennewick Man’s connection to their people. Just one year after Kennewick Man was unearthed, Armand Minthorn, an Umatilla trustee and religious leader, told Archaeology’s Andrew Slayman: “If this individual is truly over 9,000 years old, that only substantiates our belief that he is Native American. From our oral histories, we know that our people have been part of this land since the beginning of time….We already know our history.”
        Chuck Sams, an Umatilla spokesperson, echos that sentiment. He tells Mapes that “[Kennewick Man] has been displaced, and we continue to offer our prayers and our hopes for a safe journey back to the land again.”

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