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  • Putin didn't announce anything to begin with, but since any amendment that makes its way all through the parliament eventually ends up on his table to be signed, he was bound to comment on it at some stage.

    And as we've already been through in this thread, FIFA 2018 really had nothing to do with it - the stuff had been in the works for ages and it was well-known that sooner or later they'd start the whole legislative process. There are posts even here about it, dating before the World Cup, so yeah...

    Anyway, that's what they did, as expected, and Medvedev/the government (ie not the presidential administration) was to get the "official blame" (which was only a moderately successful tactic as Putin's own popularity took a big hit too, from 62% approval in June to 49% in July, despite him staying out of it at that stage). Putin now plays his designated role softening it up. Business 101 as I said. It was all planned more or less this way...

    ...And according to OECD statistics (2017), a Russian who lives long enough to start collecting a pension to begin with will live for another decade and a half, roughly, from that point and on. Ie men who do reach 65 (retirement age after this yet-to-be-signed amendment) will at present kick the bucket at around 78 on average, women later than that.

    That fact alone tells you it's unsustainable, if you want to keep pension payouts at a reasonable level you have to eventually raise the age, because right now (at 60 for men) we're talking nearly 2 decades (nearly 3 for babushki, as they turn an average of ~82 if they reach 60+ to begin with, and their retirement age is 55 at present) worth of payouts per person, and as "ak16" said above the ratio between workers and pensioners is not the greatest even now.

    It's either that, or sharply reducing the already kind of measly pensions to keep the economy in balance, and that kind of measure would be even less popular (and possibly simply out of the question, as there are laws in place for minimum sustenance and what not)

    Average life expectancy at birth is not really the metric one ought to be looking at in this case. That particular statistic is being dragged down severely by people who drink or smoke themselves to death well prior to reaching retirement age... Lots of people in that demographic aren't particularly prolific contributors to the economy while alive either, for that matter.

    And at any rate, life expectancy is steadily increasing across the board and by the time these reforms enter into full force (2028 or so), none of it will look strange even considering at birth ditto.
    Last edited by moosefoot; 29-08-2018, 11:51 AM.

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    • UR party seems to have stolen the victory of the Communists in the gubernatorial election in Primorye.


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      • ^ And the Russian Central Election Commission launched investigations into the matter, immediately found grounds to invalidate the results from 13 voting districts to begin with, and today announced that the whole thing should be regarded as invalid:
        https://ria.ru/politics/20180919/1528885761.html

        A 3rd round is thus on its way.

        The UR candidate has sided with them on this too, somewhat surprisingly I guess, but he obviously doesn't miss a chance to pour additional dirt on the commies:
        https://www.newsvl.ru/vlad/2018/09/19/173862/

        Lots of minor protests and manifestations in Vladivostok and thereabouts in recent days, both for and against the two. Intrigues, intrigues...

        It will be interesting to see how the fraud was carried out in the first place, once the investigations are done.

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        • The Kremlin supports the decision to declare the fraudulent results invalid:
          https://m.gazeta.ru/politics/news/20...12056623.shtml

          ...But the commies are saying that everything was fine and dandy until the very last minute (when KPRF candidate Ishchenko suddenly lost his lead due to the fraud), so they want the spike to be annulled so to speak, rather than having a whole new runoff:
          https://m.gazeta.ru/politics/news/20...12057601.shtml

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          • IMO a new runoff would be okay if the UR-candidate who nearly won thanks to fraud does not participate again.
            Otherwise, it is just "you will keep voting until he is elected".

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            • The opposition candidates won in the Vladimir region, in Khabarovsk krai and in Khakassia too, after their 2nd rounds.

              Bad day for Putin I guess.

              Earlier, the opposition candidate in Yakutia won by a landslide against the UR ditto.

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              • Originally posted by moosefoot View Post
                The opposition candidates won in the Vladimir region, in Khabarovsk krai and in Khakassia too, after their 2nd rounds.

                Bad day for Putin I guess.

                Earlier, the opposition candidate in Yakutia won by a landslide against the UR ditto.
                Good, UR needs to get needled a bit for their pension age raise as well as numerous other things.

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                • ^ Will be interesting to see what happens in Primorye. They have now officially cancelled the results, depriving UR of an "easy" win, and while the investigations into the voting fraud are ongoing the preliminary talk is of a 3rd round before year's end.

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                  • Originally posted by HisRoyalHighness View Post
                    Good, UR needs to get needled a bit for their pension age raise as well as numerous other things.
                    Can I ask you why are you against pension age reforms?

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                    • The Crimean bridge opened for heavy traffic (long-haulers and the like) at midnight last night and it's been like 100 trucks an hour since, so the 1000th truck should have crossed by now.

                      Will be interesting to see how this new cargo flow affects local prices a while from now. Certain goods have been notoriously pricey in Crimea after nearly all freight traffic from mainland Ukraine ceased years ago and they had to rely on ships and ferries.

                      The railway bridge will probably have a much more substantial impact once it's up and running, but trucks and tankers are important too.

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                      • After Putin submitted some amendments to soften-up article 282 (the hate speech law, which is heavily enforced), several ridiculous cases were quietly dropped even prior to the amendment being officially considered. Funny how that works, but a good development regardless. One of the more notorious cases is about a Siberian woman named Maria Motuznaya, who posted some mildly insulting memes about the ROC on the internet and was charged with "extremism" or "fanning religious hatred" or whatever they called it, back in May.

                        The case has been ongoing since, but now they suddenly did a 180 on that and it seems it will be dropped:
                        https://snob.ru/news/166701

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                        Originally posted by moosefoot View Post
                        The Crimean bridge opened for heavy traffic (long-haulers and the like) at midnight last night and it's been like 100 trucks an hour since, so the 1000th truck should have crossed by now.
                        Trucks.


                        On the topic of Crimea, they say that the post-Soviet tourist record was broken this year:
                        http://www.c-inform.info/news/id/69994

                        The previous post-Soviet record was set in 2012, with 6.1 million tourists, then it all sharply fell in 2014 as the conflict took its toll on everything. After that, it began slowly rising again, and now they had 6.16 million, so just a wee bit higher than the 2012 post-Soviet record. The bridge (which opened May) probably contributed quite a lot, being a novelty and all. Yet, out of these 6+ million, about 1 million visited from Ukraine, which is also the highest so far since 2014, so that's an intriguing dynamic right there...

                        And random, but I stumbled upon some nice aerial views of the city of Yekaterinburg on the eastern side of the Urals, where Siberia (and indeed, Asia) begins:
                        Last edited by moosefoot; 10-10-2018, 05:46 AM.

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                        • Interesting. Russia comes out on top in Europe

                          https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/s...43538149285888
                          GDP (PPP) per capita growth since 1998.
                          Russia: 216%
                          Poland: 203%
                          Ireland: 201%
                          Turkey: 173%
                          Hungary: 141%
                          Sweden: 104%
                          Finland: 90%
                          Germany: 90%
                          Netherlands: 88%
                          Spain: 87%
                          UK: 87%
                          Belgium: 80%
                          Switzerland: 74%
                          France: 74%
                          Portugal: 70%
                          Norway: 67%
                          Greece: 58%
                          Italy: 49%

                          Of course by 1998, Russia was starting from a pretty low base

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                          • Originally posted by moosefoot View Post

                            And random, but I stumbled upon some nice aerial views of the city of Yekaterinburg on the eastern side of the Urals, where Siberia (and indeed, Asia) begins:
                            Siberia begins 300 km to the east of this place, and you have to travel even further into Siberia before you meet Asia en masse (or 1000 km south and even west of Ekaterinburg, if by Asia you mean Turkic speaking Muslims).

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