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  • #31
    Originally posted by TheKiwi View Post
    Do you need a torch to set fire to all those strawmen?
    You mean these strawmen?

    Originally posted by muck View Post

    If you think you're going to get, say, a military that's 50% female, then you're out of your goddamn mind. Even if all the women out there were able-bodied you just wouldn't find the numbers interested in that sort of occupation, 'cause lo and behold! the structure of institutions isn't just determined by "oppression". First and foremost it's determined by the interests, prejudices and abilities of those that would form the institution.

    If you're okay with the fact that, say, universities turn Asian Americans away in order to increase the number of African American students, then I'd contend that it is you who is the racist.

    If you wish to chastize people who, say, are not happy with the idea of putting a transgender person into an all-female jail, where that person would proceed to sexually assault the inmates, then I'd contend that it is you who went full retard.
    Because these are not examples of actual diversity, just bad management. These are not the entirety of the concept of just accepting others. These are administrative cockups that in Muck's twisted mind I am supposed to defend because umm, that's what liberals do.

    Nope, not me. They fucked up.

    I only say that people of different stripes can live together and Carlson says they cannot. He is wrong because while Muck is cherry picking tangential poster boys that 'support' his point of view, I live in a world of diversity every damn day. Diversity uplifts and enriches far more lives than whatever legislative cockups harm others. The idea that we can all live together can only be the root cause of the problem to the mind of someone who first believes we cannot.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by budgie View Post
      I live in a world of diversity every damn day.
      Do tell.

      I want a picture of you with a black person, a Russian, and a transsexual Mexican guy on my desk within 24-hours.

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      • #33
        I want to see a pic of budgie and Jonathan meet up over a beer in the post a picture of yourself thread within... 20 days. Deal? You choose the location. Bring no weapons.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Jake View Post
          I want to see a pic of budgie and Jonathan meet up over a beer in the post a picture of yourself thread within... 20 days. Deal? You choose the location. Bring no weapons.
          Is polonium is weapon?

          If no, please put some in budgie's drink.

          For the sake of mankind. But also for shits and giggles.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Jake View Post
            I want to see a pic of budgie and Jonathan meet up over a beer in the post a picture of yourself thread within... 20 days. Deal? You choose the location. Bring no weapons.
            Already offered to meet budgie in my home. Still waiting. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Oc...9!4d96.8981288

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Jake View Post
              I want to see a pic of budgie and Jonathan meet up over a beer in the post a picture of yourself thread within... 20 days. Deal? You choose the location. Bring no weapons.

              Jonathan seems like more of a campari orange sorta guy...

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Jonathan View Post

                I want a picture of you with a black person, a Russian, and a transsexual Mexican guy on my desk within 24-hours.
                what color lingerie should we be wearing?

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                • #38
                  So word on the street is: Fucker Carlson is going to debate Michael Avanatii tonight. You know, of dirty porn lawyer fame, who represents the dirty pornstar, who is smarter and more well spoken than the shithead, who opted to have unprotected sex with her during his wife's pregnancy. Aforementioned shithead and his felony lawyer is trying to settle their lawsuit to avoid deposition about any two minute encounters in any trashy golf resorts. Or as the White Evangelicals phrased it: "Oh my God, who haven't fucked a pornstar these days?!"

                  So do we think Fucker has learned a thing or two, since Jon Stewart guested his show and murdered it, literally. Or do we expect Michael Avanatti will finally get challenged by someone equipped with a low-to-average intellect. My money is one Fucker being the kind of dumb, that simply can't be cured, that he'll try his best to interrupt and laugh off Avanatti, but end up looking like Jon Stewart's bitch all over again.
                  Last edited by Fargin; 13-09-2018, 03:27 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Jonathan View Post
                    That thing that happened in the 40s comes to mind, as do many other conflicts that involved unlikely alliances.

                    Diversity has indeed been a strength for the US. The US welcomes people of all backgrounds and cultures (so long as they come here legally), and these people have often enhanced the country because of their ability to draw on their unique cultural experiences (e.g. Asian-Americans strong cultural emphasis on education).
                    I would add the French Foreign Legion and the Mossad to this example. Also in these cases, despite the diversity present in the ranks, there is loyalty to an overarching principle or structure. Which is what turns that diversity into an asset.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by budgie View Post

                      Dude I know everything, didn't you get the memo?

                      I really don't give a rat's ass what Xaito's 'values' are. Carlson's wrong and that's that. Next we're going to start debating the 'merits' of whether women are human or black people are a 'subspecies'.

                      I'm not even going to waste time debating the 'merits' of 'anti-diversity' or whatever it is being espoused here. If the facts expose people's 'values' that's just facts being facts. They do that.

                      Carlson was wrong. I don't give a flying fuck whether Xaito is wrong or not, but Carlson was wrong. Diversity is the very antithesis of identity politics and Carlson was espousing identity politics when he railed against diversity - apparently as close as even Fox will let him get to racial slurs.

                      Carlson went full retard. He's a racist cnunt. One might ask who am I to call Carlson a racist? Who is he to demand people in a multicultural society not be expected to get along?

                      Full retard bro.
                      1. In and of itself, diversity – the fact that societies aren't homogenous – is merely an observation that's barely worth noticing. Why politicize it? I'll tell you why: What the left means talking "diversity" is enforced diversity. That is the very epitome of identity politics. I'm not surprised you opted not to argue in favor of enforced diversity, 'cause there's nothing to argue for.

                      2. Don't be an ass. Don't shove words into people's mouths they didn't use, 'cause you do not know everything. And if you believe yourself able to tell someone's entire world view and character merely by a few sentences that triggered you, it is you who's gone off the rails.

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                      • #41
                        Oh, puns based on the name of someone.

                        That brings me back. When was-it, kindergarden? Sweet nostalgia.

                        Fucker instead of Tucker. That's really cute.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by muck View Post

                          And if you believe yourself able to tell someone's entire world view and character merely by a few sentences that triggered you, it is you who's gone off the rails.

                          I've no idea what Carlson's 'entire worldview' is. His obvious racism is just one facet of his ugly personality. The rest is a mystery to me.

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                          • #43
                            How to know if you are a racist:
                            1) Did you vote for Donald Trump? If yes, you are a racist.
                            2) Are you concerned about unfettered immigration of Noble Agents of Peace? If yes, you are a racist.
                            3) Did you think that Serena Williams' recent antics were vile (in last week's US Open final)? If yes, you are a racist.
                            4) Did you ever cite black-on-white, black-on-black, white-on-black, and white-on-white murder stats? If yes, you are a racist.
                            5) Do you think that identity politics is a cancer of the human spirit? If yes, you are a racist.
                            6) Do you think that there is no indigenization epistemology that lies outside of the scientific method? If yes, you are a racist.
                            7) Do you think that women with nine-inch penises are called men? If yes, you are a racist.
                            8) Do you think that climate change is not a viable cause of global terrorism? If yes, you are a racist.
                            9) Do you use offensive words such as men and women to describe men and women? If yes, you are a racist.
                            Anything that you believe that is contrary to the "progressive" PC narrative is a manifestation of your racism (even if it has nothing to do with race).

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Ivan le Fou View Post
                              How to know if you swallowed too many red pills:

                              1) Did you vote for Donald Trump? If yes, you are easily fooled.
                              2) Are you concerned about unfettered immigration of Noble Agents of Peace? If yes, you are a misanthrope.
                              3) Did you think that Serena Williams' recent antics were vile? If yes, you are a racist unless you agree all tennis tantrums are vile.
                              4) Did you ever cite black-on-white, black-on-black, white-on-black, and white-on-white murder stats? If yes, you need to get out more.
                              5) Do you think that identity politics is a cancer of the human spirit? If yes, you're not welcome at a Trump rally.
                              6) Do you think that there is no indigenization epistemology that lies outside of the scientific method? If yes, congratulations: you know some big words.
                              7) Do you think that women with nine-inch penises are hot? If yes, you are Ivan le Fou.
                              8) Do you think that climate change is not a viable cause of global terrorism? If so, you don't pay attention to pentagon research.
                              9) Do you use 'offensive' words such as men and women to describe men and women? If yes, you are perfectly normal.
                              Fixed for you.

                              This thread has gotten way too silly.
                              Last edited by budgie; 14-09-2018, 12:32 PM.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Ivan le Fou View Post
                                Oh, puns based on the name of someone.

                                That brings me back. When was-it, kindergarden? Sweet nostalgia.

                                Fucker instead of Tucker. That's really cute.
                                I feel the horse has bolted on this one, assuming Hitlery, Obummer or Dubya never bothered you.

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