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  • I Wondered Why There Was No OSCE in Mexico

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    The OSCE has a comprehensive approach to security that encompasses politico-military, economic and environmental, and human aspects. It therefore addresses a wide range of security-related concerns, including arms control, confidence- and security-building measures, human rights, national minorities, democratization, policing strategies, counter-terrorism and economic and environmental activities. All 57 participating States enjoy equal status, and decisions are taken by consensus on a politically, but not legally binding basis.

    https://www.osce.org/whatistheosce
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    The OSCE has 57 participating States from Europe, Central Asia and North America


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    Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, works to increase military security and stability in Europe and questions related to the compliance of states with the provisions of the 1990 Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe.

    Mexico is not located in Europe, it never was a member of either NATO or the WP and never was a part of the Soviet Union.
    Mexico is not located in the wider region, like the Mediterranean (the Asian members are former Soviet Republics).
    Mexico is not a Partner Nation as it is not located in this region and does not have a shared security area (the USA and Canada are members through NATO and the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe).

    Apart from the above I do not recall Mexico ever seeking membership.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by tercio67 View Post
      Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, works to increase military security and stability in Europe and questions related to the compliance of states with the provisions of the 1990 Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe.

      Mexico is not located in Europe, it never was a member of either NATO or the WP and never was a part of the Soviet Union.
      Mexico is not located in the wider region, like the Mediterranean (the Asian members are former Soviet Republics).
      Mexico is not a Partner Nation as it is not located in this region and does not have a shared security area (the USA and Canada are members through NATO and the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe).

      Apart from the above I do not recall Mexico ever seeking membership.
      Duh me. Well, why isn't there something like Organization for Security and Co-operation in *Mexico and the rest of the world? Not important enough to "Important people"??

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      • #4
        Nothing since 2012- 2013, and apparently nothing done from this organization
        EU support to Justice and Security Sector Reform in Latin America and the Caribbean

        European Union mandate in Brazil, Caribbean, Central America, Colombia, El Salvador, Guyana, Honduras, Jamaica, Mexico, Nicaragua , Panama , Peru , SOUTH AMERICA, Trinidad and Tobago, Uruguay 30.11.2012. - 30.07.2013.

        https://issat.dcaf.ch/ser/Learn/SSR-...Regions/Mexico

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        • #5
          I can't tell where any of this helped, and reporters in Mexico are just murdered.

          U.S.-Mexican Security Cooperation:
          The Mérida Initiative and Beyond
          Clare Ribando Seelke
          Specialist in Latin American Affairs
          Kristin Finklea
          Specialist in Domestic Security


          https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/R41349.pdf

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          • #6
            The only people I know of that are reporting anything is Borderland Beat, which is mostly ignored by the world.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cowboy's daughter View Post

              Duh me. Well, why isn't there something like Organization for Security and Co-operation in *Mexico and the rest of the world? Not important enough to "Important people"??
              Ah, that one is called the UN.....you know this one, right? Itś the one that has a security counsel and permanent members that can veto anything useful ever getting done.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by tercio67 View Post

                Ah, that one is called the UN.....you know this one, right? Itś the one that has a security counsel and permanent members that can veto anything useful ever getting done.
                Oh yeah, I've heard about them, but don't see them doing anything nor having much influence in Mexico, so I guess they're pretty much useless to the relieving the suffering in Mexico. So has the UN had any resolutions regarding Mexico, and if so, has any of their members vetoed them?

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                • #9
                  Oh look, there was one in 2012, for all the good it did, which is absolutely none, and the one before that was in 1998. >>>
                  The last UN General Assembly Special Session addressing the issue of drugs took place 14 years ago, in 1998, also at the initiative of Mexico.


                  and oh look, it was unanimously adopted by every nation in the UN.

                  November 26, 2012
                  Resource
                  The UN General Assembly Approves Resolution Presented by Mexico on International Cooperation Against Drugs


                  http://www.drugpolicy.org/resource/u...ation-against-



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                  • #10
                    i don't see anything specifically regarding Mexico, looking back to 2012

                    Security Council Resolutions


                    http://www.un.org/en/sc/documents/re...ons/2012.shtml




                    Security Council - Veto List
                    (in reverse chronological order) Prepared and maintained by the Dag Hammarskjöld Library. Data from 1946-2004 were taken from the official list of vetoes contained in document A/58/47, Annex III.


                    http://research.un.org/en/docs/sc/quick


                    I don't see any about MEXICO.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Cowboy's daughter View Post

                      Duh me. Well, why isn't there something like Organization for Security and Co-operation in *Mexico and the rest of the world? Not important enough to "Important people"??
                      OSCE has the support of major European countries as a way to avoid conflicts in the region.

                      Why there's no such structure in the Americas? Probably because of the US and its lack of interest in such a structure.

                      European countries look at these international bodies to maintain a balance. US would probably think that these organizations hinder its agenda in the region. Just think at how differently the US and the European countries perceive the UN.


                      And maybe this is wrong (from different/all perspectives), but I think the US cares more about Europe (e.g. Yugoslavia) than what's going on in the Americas (and "relieving the suffering" there).

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BogT View Post

                        OSCE has the support of major European countries as a way to avoid conflicts in the region.

                        Why there's no such structure in the Americas? Probably because of the US and its lack of interest in such a structure.

                        European countries look at these international bodies to maintain a balance. US would probably think that these organizations hinder its agenda in the region. Just think at how differently the US and the European countries perceive the UN.


                        And maybe this is wrong (from different/all perspectives), but I think the US cares more about Europe (e.g. Yugoslavia) than what's going on in the Americas (and "relieving the suffering" there).
                        It certainly seems so..although I have no clue what could be done regarding Mexico. If "the world" wanted to what could they do about the cartels, and other problems in Mexico?

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                        • #13
                          HO HUM, Other than an earthquake Mexico....

                          OCHA has a National Disaster Response Adviser (NDRA) in Mexico since 2009. The advisor is based in the office of the UN Resident Coordinator and works closely with the Secretary of State (SEGOB), the National System of Civil Protection (SINAPROC) and the United Nations System to strengthen national capacities in disaster management.

                          In 2011, the Government of Mexico officially requested OCHA's support to coordinate earthquake preparedness and response activities as part of the National Earthquake Plan. Since then, OCHA has provided technical support to national authorities in accordance with international guidelines and tools.

                          OCHA's work in Mexico consists of strengthening national capacities in disaster preparedness and response, receiving and providing humanitarian assistance, developing information management protocols and providing support to the UN Resident Coordinator. In addition, OCHA provides support to improve the coordination of the national contingency plan with the United Nations emergency response plan

                          https://www.unocha.org/where-we-work/ocha-presence

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                          • #14
                            RE: organisations and Mexico, the term 'the Government of Mexico officially requested....' will always be needed for any organisation to do anything in/with Mexico.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by tercio67 View Post
                              RE: organisations and Mexico, the term 'the Government of Mexico officially requested....' will always be needed for any organisation to do anything in/with Mexico.
                              The fact is that there is nothing like OSCE in Mexico. If there was, the cartels would just kill / behead them.

                              It would take a military better than Mexico's and a police force better than Mexico's to deal with the cartels (It would take something like the US army invading Mexico), and what is bad is the cartels are on our border and operating in the US.

                              and what is really bad, is what's happening to the people of Mexico.

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