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  • Pot needs to be legal now. Congress needs to make it happen

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/...it-happen.html

    Dr. Manny Alvarez: Pot needs to be legal now. Congress needs to make it happen


    Someone needs to tell Congress that when it comes to marijuana, the genie is out of the bottle.

    Last week, Attorney General Jeff Sessions sparked bipartisan protests among members of Congress with his decision to reverse the Justice Department policy – begun under the Obama administration – that took a hands-off approach to state legalization or partial legalization of marijuana.

    Sessions instead gave U.S. attorneys discretion to “enforce the laws enacted by Congress” to the extent they see fit against the possession and sale of marijuana in states that have legalized medical or recreational use of the drug.

    The action by the attorney general poses a threat to the freedoms of all those involved in the pot industry in the 29 states and District Columbia that have legalized it for medicinal use and the seven states plus the District of Columbia that have legalized recreational pot. Vermont will soon join that group, after its Legislature gave final approval this week to a bill legalizing recreational pot and Republican Gov. Phil Scott said Thursday he will sign the bill into law.
    I don't really know where I stand here, I have done my share of pot as a late teen and young adults and witnessed many lazy, worthless, bum potheads who wouldn't work a job, get governement dole and sell a bit of weed.

    It has also life long affects on your lungs if mixed up with tobacco in the joint.

    Also does pot trigger Schizophrenia or not? Not sure even the scientists and psychiatrists have reached a consensus.

    Mordoror, the scientist?
    Last edited by JakeScully; 13-01-2018, 05:16 AM. Reason: Formatting

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    I'm all in favor if it is for medical use.

    As a painkiller I have heard it can be pretty efficient and, apparently, well liked and preferred by people suffering from cancer.
    I only speak for myself, but when I had cancer I would have gladly switched my medical painkillers, anti-parkinsonians and other sedatives for something with less negative side effects.

    Marijuana also has, apparently, very positive effects on people suffering from seizures, parkinson, etc... and also veterans suffering from PTSD.


    Now, for recreational use? Nah.

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    • #3
      I support full legalization, decriminalization, and with zero taxation in regards to marijuana. Let people police their own chemical intake.

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      • #4
        The parallel with alcohol is often made, by saying alcohol is much more dangerous than pot.

        If marijuana is fully legalized (both medical and recreational) will there be, and should there be, an age limit just like for alcohol?

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        • #5
          Yay to all of the above, even recreational.

          However in order to protect the jobs in the prison industrial complex, Jefe Sessions needs to find another solution to fill up the penitentiary vacancies with minorities. Big pharma donors are also going to get mighty mad, if the government allow the sale of a cheaper non-lethal opioid-alternative. The amount of accidents, violence, related diseases and neglect alcohol creates, I don't really mind people suffering the side-effects, such as watching cartoons and having the munchies.

          And if you tax it(T-word) and regulate it(R-word) you might actually allow the states a little revenue, they can use to fill the potholes and school libraries with, seeing as Trump just took out a giant payday loan out on IRS.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Ivan le Fou View Post

            If marijuana is fully legalized (both medical and recreational) will there be, and should there be, an age limit just like for alcohol?
            I'm sure age limit would fall over 18 just like tobacco/nicotine products or over 21 like alcohol.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Fargin View Post
              Yay to all of the above, even recreational.

              However in order to protect the jobs in the prison industrial complex, Jefe Sessions needs to find another solution to fill up the penitentiary vacancies with minorities. Big pharma donors are also going to get mighty mad, if the government allow the sale of a cheaper non-lethal opioid-alternative. The amount of accidents, violence, related diseases and neglect alcohol creates, I don't really mind people suffering the side-effects, such as watching cartoons and having the munchies.

              And if you tax it(T-word) and regulate it(R-word) you might actually allow the states a little revenue, they can use to fill the potholes and school libraries with, seeing as Trump just took out a giant payday loan out on IRS.
              20, 000 dead in 2016 alone from Synth opioids. I hate to use the team America quote, but its 9/11 x 70.

              But hey, it's easy to say they made poor life choices.

              Drug use and economic conditions tend to be correlated. Funny how that works.

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              • #8
                Is it true that taking pot in the long term, affects the heart and will eventually cause death?

                read in a newspaper column, so ask you folks

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                • #9
                  I never thought I'd see the day that pot was legal in the usa, but I pretty much agree with Devil Child

                  I support full legalization, decriminalization, and with zero taxation in regards to marijuana. Let people police their own chemical intake.
                  I think persons could either grow their own, or buy it, if sold and bought out of a store, then tax it.

                  I don't see any way to prevent persons younger than 18 from smoking pot, if there is an age limit. But that has always been the case.

                  My ex was a big pot head, bought it, sold it, smoked it, grew it, myself- it was not my thing.

                  Alcohol is much worse.

                  I'm definitely for medical mj.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JakeScully View Post
                    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/...it-happen.html





                    I don't really know where I stand here, I have done my share of pot as a late teen and young adults and witnessed many lazy, worthless, bum potheads who wouldn't work a job, get governement dole and sell a bit of weed.

                    It has also life long affects on your lungs if mixed up with tobacco in the joint.

                    Also does pot trigger Schizophrenia or not? Not sure even the scientists and psychiatrists have reached a consensus.


                    Mordoror, the scientist?
                    There is no consensus on the psychological effects for several reasons
                    It may be dependant of the smoker psy background
                    Of the amount of pot smoked/day
                    And its quality

                    If you are smoking for leisure, you have already social skills and a stable mental and smoke old strains (low content of THC) here and between, you are at way lower risk than somebody who smokes 10 time a day to fill his miserable life and is smoking 15-20% THC content strains

                    From that pov it looks like very much like alcohol
                    A glass of wine from time to time won't give you alcoholic dementia
                    Piling bottles on bottles of cheap vodka will



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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by peping View Post
                      Is it true that taking pot in the long term, affects the heart and will eventually cause death?

                      read in a newspaper column, so ask you folks
                      Yes
                      But mostly because it is burned and mixed with tobacco
                      Smoking cigarettes do the same thing
                      Smoking not tobacco containing cigarettes (for example eucalytus cigarettes) will do the same thing
                      Burned stuff inhalated will kill you in long term for sure

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                      • #12
                        Guys, prohibition for a in demand product never works. Legalization with state regulation/Federal regulation is a much better option.

                        Pot is a cash crop and we’ve seen its success in Colorado where the state had so much money they had to start sending checks to folks.

                        I don’t like the stuff and I don’t ever want to try the stuff, but I can see the positives greatly outweighing the negatives.

                        Although I’m concerned about how this is going to impact the 2nd Amendment rights of Americans, since Hawaii threatened to rob it’s citizens who have a marijuana cards of their rights.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Devil Child View Post
                          I support full legalization, decriminalization, and with zero taxation in regards to marijuana. Let people police their own chemical intake.
                          volenti non fit iniuria

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mordoror View Post

                            There is no consensus on the psychological effects for several reasons
                            It may be dependant of the smoker psy background
                            Of the amount of pot smoked/day
                            And its quality

                            If you are smoking for leisure, you have already social skills and a stable mental and smoke old strains (low content of THC) here and between, you are at way lower risk than somebody who smokes 10 time a day to fill his miserable life and is smoking 15-20% THC content strains

                            From that pov it looks like very much like alcohol
                            A glass of wine from time to time won't give you alcoholic dementia
                            Piling bottles on bottles of cheap vodka will


                            this^..



                            and this..

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                            • #15
                              Alcohol is as bad if not worse. The agro, addictive power and medical harm.

                              Sad to say legalise it.

                              Kids at an impressionable age need to be shown the fucked up lives it will cause like cancer and cigarettes.
                              Parents need to show them that there are better things to get into and yes I know that's wishful thinking.

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