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    As an American who is 100% pro Israel, my apologies to all Israelis for Obama's actions in not vetoing the stupid anti Israel resolution yesterday when the US abstained.

    Believe me and Trump in 22 days things will change when the nation has a FRIEND again who will support and stand with you against those who wish to destroy you and the West.

    Keep the faith...Obama does NOT represent us here in Texas.
    Last edited by commanding; 24-12-2016, 10:29 AM.

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    H.W. Bush cut Israeli aid over settlement expansion, Reagan cut it over Lebanon. Obama was right to tell his UN envoy to abstain.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Surenas View Post
      H.W. Bush cut Israeli aid over settlement expansion, Reagan cut it over Lebanon. Obama was right to tell his UN envoy to abstain.
      Do you not understand the difference in decreasing aid and the outright hate Obama has exhibited toward the greatest state of Israel? Obama was a one time brain fart.
      Until Iran has regime change and stops supplying terrorists!

      After Trump takes office your sweethearts in Iran can expect a new hardliners from the USA, no more chicken shit Obama love kisses. You guys detain US ships on the high seas, expect retaliation, and military response, with extreme prejudice.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by commanding View Post
        Do you not understand the difference in decreasing aid and the outright hate Obama has exhibited toward the greatest state of Israel? Obama was a one time brain fart.
        Boehoe. There hasn't been a single US president who has given Israel more aid than Obama. Up to the last vote, Obama vetoed every UNSC resolution regarding Israel, unlike under Bush' administration when the US abstained on 6 resolutions.

        After Trump takes office your sweethearts in Iran can expect a new hardliners from the USA, no more chicken shit Obama love kisses. You guys detain US ships on the high seas, expect retaliation, and military response, with extreme prejudice.
        Don't come in Iranian waters and you won't be detained. Nobody fears Trump in Iran, no matter how many 'mad dogs' he appoints.
        Last edited by Surenas; 24-12-2016, 06:52 AM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Surenas View Post

          Boehoe. There hasn't been a single US president which has given Israel more aid than Obama. Up to the last vote, Obama vetoed every UNSC resolution regarding Israel, unlike under Bush' administration when the US abstained on 6 resolutions.



          Don't come in Iranian waters and you won't be detained. Nobody fears Trump in Iran, no matter how many 'mad dogs' he appoints.
          keep defending the rabid Iranian regime, it will either stop supporting terrorists, and stop violating international law, or a lot of Iranians will perish as a result. By the way work on your English, it sucks, like your political leanings.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by commanding View Post
            keep defending the rabid Iranian regime, it will either stop supporting terrorists, and stop violating international law, or a lot of Iranians will perish as a result. By the way work on your English, it sucks, like your political leanings.
            Don't change the discussion. Your habit of attacking members' country of origin whenever they disagree with you or your country's policies is pathetic, as well as the personal attacks you spew.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by commanding View Post
              You guys detain US ships on the high seas, expect retaliation, and military response, with extreme prejudice.
              Not in open sea, in iranian waters due to navigational errors...

              US and NATO don't succeed in cleaning Afghanistan, we loose a lot of good men there, invading a divided country and not solving anything, I don't think that invading Iran will be a painless walk.
              Overconfidence is the best way to break our own balls.

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              • #8
                Extremism, whether israeli or Palestinian , will fail in the long run. As an outside observer , I can't see how continued building in the West Bank is good for the Israeli people. In essence Israel is effectively choosing a one state solution. And that causes more problems than it solves. Unless Israel is willing to force the exodus of millions of Palestinians in the West Bank to arab countries, there's going to be demographic problems.

                The Israelis and the Palestinians really need to consider what kind of world their children will live in. If the current grid lock continues, then in 25 years the one state solution will be the ONLY solution.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 1night View Post
                  Extremism, whether israeli or Palestinian , will fail in the long run. As an outside observer , I can't see how continued building in the West Bank is good for the Israeli people. In essence Israel is effectively choosing a one state solution. And that causes more problems than it solves. Unless Israel is willing to force the exodus of millions of Palestinians in the West Bank to arab countries, there's going to be demographic problems.

                  The Israelis and the Palestinians really need to consider what kind of world their children will live in. If the current grid lock continues, then in 25 years the one state solution will be the ONLY solution.
                  Thing is that the settlement issue should be resolved via Israeli-Palestinian negotiation. This decision gives the Palestinians everything they wanted, while ignoring all the things they need to deal with, like institutionalized propaganda and indoctrination, international aid funds supporting terrorists and so on.

                  You can't possibly claim to support a peaceful resolution to this conflict and agree with how this vote went.

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                  • #10
                    Also discussed here:

                    http://themess.net/forum/political-d...t-israel/page3

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by tanks_alot View Post

                      Thing is that the settlement issue should be resolved via Israeli-Palestinian negotiation. This decision gives the Palestinians everything they wanted, while ignoring all the things they need to deal with, like institutionalized propaganda and indoctrination, international aid funds supporting terrorists and so on.

                      You can't possibly claim to support a peaceful resolution to this conflict and agree with how this vote went.
                      QFT

                      Most people are too far removed to understand your post.

                      Anyhow, more meaningless baloney from the UN.

                      I am 99% sure it is issued under Chapter VI, and will not be supported by the incoming US administration.

                      It is not worth the paper it is written upon.

                      But, high time to treat the UN as an enemy institution.

                      commanding, Thank You!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 1night View Post
                        Extremism, whether israeli or Palestinian , will fail in the long run. As an outside observer , I can't see how continued building in the West Bank is good for the Israeli people. In essence Israel is effectively choosing a one state solution. And that causes more problems than it solves. Unless Israel is willing to force the exodus of millions of Palestinians in the West Bank to arab countries, there's going to be demographic problems.

                        The Israelis and the Palestinians really need to consider what kind of world their children will live in. If the current grid lock continues, then in 25 years the one state solution will be the ONLY solution.
                        Israel has the complete right to build in, and occupy that territory, it was conquered by the Israel military.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Surenas View Post

                          Don't change the discussion. Your habit of attacking members' country of origin whenever they disagree with you or your country's policies is pathetic, as well as the personal attacks you spew.
                          Troll much in threads that don't concern you? I bet you have a letter jacket in flame baiting.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by commanding View Post
                            Troll much in threads that don't concern you? I bet you have a letter jacket in flame baiting.
                            Where did I troll in this thread? And why shouldn't this thread concern me?

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                            • #15
                              New Zealand meeting calls into question White House narrative on role in UN vote

                              The US publicly told its partners on the Security Council that it would consider each draft resolution on its merit, but says that it never indicated how it would vote– up until the vote itself.

                              But the Israeli government has publicly accused the Obama administration of "colluding" with its drafters to ensure that the right resolution with just the right language came forward for a vote. The US publicly told its partners on the Security Council that it would consider each draft resolution on its merit, but says that it never indicated how it would vote– up until the vote itself, which took place on Friday afternoon. The US abstained, allowing the resolution to pass.

                              The Israeli government provided no clear evidence to back its claim that the Obama administration worked to promote the effort. But one public engagement by Secretary of State John Kerry last month may offer some clues as to how Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his government reached its conclusion.

                              Kerry visited New Zealand on November 13, shortly after the US presidential election, and took part in "deep" conversation over how its government– which holds a non-permanent seat on the Security Council until the end of this calendar year– could engage in a UN-related initiative on the Middle East peace process.

                              http://m.jpost.com/#article=6017NEQw...EwOTM5QkJGOTc=

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