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  • Originally posted by Smokey View Post

    I don't have anything against Russia or Muslims There were Polish heroes who were Muslim like Josef Bem

    But the EU?

    The EU call us undemocratic. But EU's rule has shown itself nothing more than undemocratic! They call themselves defenders of justice? For what right do they have to tell us how to live? What authority do they have over our very lives? We are a free people and we will command our lands and our families as we see fit. The irresolute and spineless men of the EU will not dictate our path.
    The thing is though that the EU pays your bills. You can have freedom or you can have the EU's money but you can't have it both ways bud. Those irresolute and spineless men following hollow neo-liberal dogmas and idoims also happen to represent every donor country in the EU.

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    • Nobody is paying for Smokey's medical bills. He's self medicating.

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      • Meanwhile in Poland atmosphere is dense not just in political term. Many polish towns are in grips of Smog. Recent cold weather resulted in peoples cranking up the heating. Towns with particulary high numbers of coal based household heating like Cracov the air polilution has reached hazardous levels where use of safety masks is recommended. Citizens are advised to stay indoors and avoid exercising in open air.

        Local health care authorties reported increased number of patients suffering from conditions where symptoms are elevated by exposure to poluted air.

        General inspectorate of enviroment estimates that air quality should improve from today.

        Ministry of enviroment could not pass opportunity to make an idiot out of itself and informed they is no need for more strict air pollution norms... because they would need to constantly issue alert status.

        Glory to the gnome.
        Last edited by Asheren; 12-01-2017, 03:26 AM.

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        • Opposition stops blocking Speaker seat and podium in parlament. It was easy to expect that failure would be huge blow for opposition. And it is. There`s no more "united opposition". Some leaders are or will be under preasure of internal opposition of thier parties after that.

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          • Originally posted by Guma View Post
            Opposition stops blocking Speaker seat and podium in parlament. It was easy to expect that failure would be huge blow for opposition. And it is. There`s no more "united opposition". Some leaders are or will be under preasure of internal opposition of thier parties after that.
            We will see. If gnome was in such sure win position he would not delay parliament meeting twice in a row. Not to mention resorting to graveyard tactic.

            Key issue is that neither side is able to achieve any kind of permament political position that would give them postion to try deliver finishing blow due to how higly motivated are both camps.

            PiS wants to screw small stock exchange players.

            Group of PiS PMs submited notion to remove call to sale requirement on Warsaw stock exchange. Requirement was put in place to protect minor shareholders and ensure they are on equal footing. Many experts are little bit unnerved by PiSdiots suddent intrest in capital markets.
            Last edited by Asheren; 12-01-2017, 04:14 AM.

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            • Originally posted by Asheren View Post

              We will see. If gnome was in such sure win position he would not delay parliament meeting twice in a row. Not to mention resorting to graveyard tactic.

              Key issue is that neither side is able to achieve any kind of permament political position that would give them postion to try deliver finishing blow due to how higly motivated are both camps.
              facts:
              - opposition who declared "United opposition" is divided now because every player pleyd thier own game to maximalize its benefits
              - Petru lost credibility as reasonable leader proving that he is not able to arrange simple trip to avoid beeing photographed with his lover (vice president of his own party) in worst possible moment
              - Schetyna - tried to pick "opposition leader" place but failed
              - KOD - is being tearing apart by Kijewski fraction and internal opposition. Many of ordinary members highly disappointed
              - budget accepted by parlament and waiting for President sign (let say 99% or Kaczyński plays some strange game)

              This is reality. Did I missed something?

              PiS is a ruling party and it`s main goal is to keep power. No chance for opposition to take it over being in such bad shape

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              • Yup, this pretty much sums up the reality at this point.

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                • Looks like people have already started production on Smolensk 2:
                  http://i.imgur.com/0JXAfPC.jpg

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                  • Originally posted by Smokey View Post
                    Meanwhile in EU,

                    As their cities lay in despair; plagued by rape, crime and terror, their citizens witness to bloodshed and horror, the EU delegates have presented their candidates for the position of Chief of European Commission.

                    In the time of terror, murder and violence inflicted upon their citizens, these delegates debated how to punish Poland instead. Our country that has so far been spared terror their homelands now endure as every day struggle. Our country that does what it can to protect our nation, our prosperity and safety from the horrors EU has to live with now.

                    They make their pitiful claims of democracy, and all the while, they look upon us with loathing and disgust.

                    The very fools do not understand that any sanctions will make our nation and our spirit even stronger ! We will throw away the shackles EU has put on us and turn our sight to our true brothers in South and the East. And as their time will come, as the history will be written, the dying EU will look upon the face of united Slavdom and whisper "save us" to which we will shout "NO!"


                    http://natemat.pl/198961,jak-jest-wo...ardziej-realne
                    Meds. Take them please.

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                    • Originally posted by Guma View Post

                      facts:
                      - opposition who declared "United opposition" is divided now because every player pleyd thier own game to maximalize its benefits
                      - Petru lost credibility as reasonable leader proving that he is not able to arrange simple trip to avoid beeing photographed with his lover (vice president of his own party) in worst possible moment
                      - Schetyna - tried to pick "opposition leader" place but failed
                      - KOD - is being tearing apart by Kijewski fraction and internal opposition. Many of ordinary members highly disappointed
                      - budget accepted by parlament and waiting for President sign (let say 99% or Kaczyński plays some strange game)

                      This is reality. Did I missed something?

                      PiS is a ruling party and it`s main goal is to keep power. No chance for opposition to take it over being in such bad shape
                      No you are correct. The thing is that in big picture the situation has not changed that much. Society is very strongly polarized and those who will not vote for PiS will vote for anyone but PiS. Same with PiS supporters most will vote for Kaczynski regardless whatever kind of s..t is found.

                      Neither side is even inch closer to solving curent crisis or winning it. Kaczynski might have forced his way but price is further degradation of statehood apparatus authority. There is a reason why UJ and US called politicians to return to path of legalism. If leadership can ignore laws why should common citizens?

                      This is also affecting potential election results. Kaczynski has barely few seats advantage by having almost 37% of votes due to turnout in last elections. With "overwhelming support" he is nowhere near half and with risk of opposition having enough seats to form gov.

                      Even if either side gets more than half seats its not going to be a stable coalition this state needs. It will also not be sufficient to make changes in constitution to prevent such regin of lawless as we have now.

                      As for budget there is one small problem with it there is nothing preventing external parties from not recognizing the vote. EU does not need to sanction us. They can just say they can't give us money because there is no budget.
                      Last edited by Asheren; 12-01-2017, 11:25 AM.

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                      • Urgent: PiS Minister of Justice Zbigniew Ziobro wants constitutional tribunal to invalidate election of three of its active judges

                        Judges Stanisław Rymar, Piotr Tuleja and Marek Zubik were elected by parliament in 2010.

                        any bets how long before we reach internal conflict stage?

                        http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/kraj/proku...2010-r/4rtl14c
                        Last edited by Asheren; 12-01-2017, 08:37 AM.

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                        • Grand San Escobar Poland alliance made it to USA.

                          President Trump was briefed about this new superpower soon to eclipse america.

                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.d0f2917b7021

                          Soo goverment controled Lotos will now promote pro-goverment "press". Directors were informed to check daily if the "newspapers" are presented in aestheticaly pleasant way. For financial reasons ofc.

                          Where could they get such idea from.. ah yes Russia around 2004. Will there be educational beatings if the press is not aesthetic enough too?

                          http://wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/wiadomos...aign=FB_Gazeta
                          Last edited by Asheren; 12-01-2017, 10:59 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by Guma View Post

                            facts:
                            - opposition who declared "United opposition" is divided now because every player pleyd thier own game to maximalize its benefits
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                            Schetyna to Petru: "You want to teach me politics? You??"
                            Maybe both of them should learn from Kijowski: his position is also weakened, but at least he gained something substantial. They gained nothing.

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                            • Originally posted by PeacefulNeighbour View Post

                              Schetyna to Petru: "You want to teach me politics? You??"
                              Maybe both of them should learn from Kijowski: his position is also weakened, but at least he gained something substantial. They gained nothing.
                              Well Zero just bailed both of them out with his latest stunt. All because Pszczolkowski showed a spine. Tho i am not sure if Ziobro and PiS hardliners fully realize potential consequences of removing active tribunal judges who gave oaths and were passing verdicts for 6 years. This is completly new level.

                              Tommorow no one will remember what happend in last few days mainly because opposition fully realize that stake is Kaczynski actualy realizing his threats. What would stop PiS from replacing court judges if they manage to remove tribunal judges?

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                              • Silesians will comemorate victims of soviet and "communist poland death camps".

                                On 28th as each year silesians will participate in Zgoda March. The route will folow 10km path of "german" civilian prisoners transfered to newly re-opened under polish menagment "death camp" in Swietohlowice-Zgoda. Its part of annual events comemorate what is known as upper silesian tragedy.

                                "Communist poland death camps" was a network of filtration, forced labor and deportation camps established by soviet and communist polish authorities in period 1945-1950 in Slasko-Dobrowskie voivodship. Swietcholowice-Zgoda is considered to be first of such camps opened by communist polish authorities. It was re-opened nazi germany death camp baranch of KL Aushwitz. Prisoners consisted various undesirables of communist poland goverment from Silesians to members of anti-communist underground.

                                Capmps were intialy created and supervised by department of prisons and camps in ministry of public security. Department in establishing period was lead by colonel Teodor Duda.(no known relations to current president)
                                http://katalog.bip.ipn.gov.pl/showDe...osobaId=22045&

                                Map of comunist camps in Slaskie-Dabrowskie from 1945-1950

                                https://scontent-waw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...4d&oe=58DFB734

                                http://www.znak.com.pl/kartoteka,ksi...koncentracyjne
                                Last edited by Asheren; 13-01-2017, 03:53 AM.

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