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  • #31
    Apparently his Whitaker appointment may be unconstitutional. He needs to seek senate approval first. He'd probably get it anyway (unless a few Republicans found their spines and held out till a nominee came along who wasn't clearly a hatchet man to take out Mueller), but he still has to seek it and he hasn't done that yet.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by budgie View Post
      Apparently his Whitaker appointment may be unconstitutional. He needs to seek senate approval first. He'd probably get it anyway (unless a few Republicans found their spines and held out till a nominee came along who wasn't clearly a hatchet man to take out Mueller), but he still has to seek it and he hasn't done that yet.
      Uh...he's not appointing Whittaker as AG, he's assigning him as interim AG, and Chief's of Staff are not like admin assistants either.
      Last edited by Soldat_Américain; 10-11-2018, 07:15 PM.

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      • #33
        https://news.grabien.com/story-msnbc...t-sessions-fir

        Upset over President Trump firing Attorney General Jeff Sessions, MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow is organizing mass marches.

        The protests are slated for today at 5 PM. “It’s happening,” she wrote online. “This is a ‘break the glass in case of emergency’ plan to protect the Mueller investigation.”

        “We knew this would happen at some point,” she added. “The day has arrived.”
        Maddow posted the messages to her Twitter account, which has 9.54 million followers.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by budgie View Post
          Apparently his Whitaker appointment may be unconstitutional. He needs to seek senate approval first. He'd probably get it anyway (unless a few Republicans found their spines and held out till a nominee came along who wasn't clearly a hatchet man to take out Mueller), but he still has to seek it and he hasn't done that yet.
          Still lacking biggly in the research department. Which is usually something you do before claiming something...



          Originally posted by haze17 View Post
          https://news.grabien.com/story-msnbc...t-sessions-fir

          Upset over President Trump firing Attorney General Jeff Sessions, MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow is organizing mass marches.

          The protests are slated for today at 5 PM. “It’s happening,” she wrote online. “This is a ‘break the glass in case of emergency’ plan to protect the Mueller investigation.”

          “We knew this would happen at some point,” she added. “The day has arrived.”
          Maddow posted the messages to her Twitter account, which has 9.54 million followers.
          Inciting civil unrest?

          Maddow is the Alex Johnnes of the left.

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          • #35
            https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/10/sena...pointment.html

            Dems consider legal challenge to whitaker appointment.

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            • #36
              A case can be made for it being unconstitutional.

              https://www.lawfareblog.com/matthew-...ring-questions

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              • #37
                Originally posted by anon45 View Post
                A case can be made for it being unconstitutional.

                https://www.lawfareblog.com/matthew-...ring-questions

                Unfortunately the GOP held congress is unlikely to weigh it on its legal merits and give any sort of hearing. My guess is they're only interested in the political optics and they'll dismiss it outright.

                There's hope though that as the midterms wear off, Trump's legal woes mount and his behaviour gets sillier, they may start to draw away from him. The senate has not been so rabidly pro-trump because they share his 'values' (he has none, they still do), they do so because they fear his base, who make up a sizeable portion of their own voters. If it looks like he won't make it to 2020 (and word is Don Jr's next to be indicted so watch this space) then they'll be able to more safely jettison him. Mitt Romney for example could lead a sort of traditionalist breakaway.

                So maybe not this time, but as the criminality gets harder and harder to deny and the space between elections makes loyalty fade a bit, they might find their spines. Of course trump keeps holding rallies, like a dictator, which keeps his base thinking he's permanently on campaign, so that quiet period may never come.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by budgie View Post


                  Unfortunately the GOP held congress is unlikely to weigh it on its legal merits and give any sort of hearing. My guess is they're only interested in the political optics and they'll dismiss it outright.

                  There's hope though that as the midterms wear off, Trump's legal woes mount and his behaviour gets sillier, they may start to draw away from him. The senate has not been so rabidly pro-trump because they share his 'values' (he has none, they still do), they do so because they fear his base, who make up a sizeable portion of their own voters. If it looks like he won't make it to 2020 (and word is Don Jr's next to be indicted so watch this space) then they'll be able to more safely jettison him. Mitt Romney for example could lead a sort of traditionalist breakaway.

                  So maybe not this time, but as the criminality gets harder and harder to deny and the space between elections makes loyalty fade a bit, they might find their spines. Of course trump keeps holding rallies, like a dictator, which keeps his base thinking he's permanently on campaign, so that quiet period may never come.

                  Don't think we'll see the senate abandon him without some seriously traitorous stuff, politics are too polarized, I suppose we'll have to see if any challenge arises from the party. If not, I don't think he'll be abandoned by the party without some seriously traitorous stuff beyond simple corruption and nepotism.

                  Financial shenanigans and perjury won't do it these days. So we'll see Trump stick around for the next elections. Maybe he'll win a 2nd term, maybe not. I'm just interested in hearing what Mueller has to say, and not see it get buried before it even comes to light.

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                  • #39
                    Hard to imagine an internal challenge. Having Romney back in the picture offers hope, but Trump is a cult of personality and nobody an steal a platform from that: whatever they are, they're not him.So you might be right: we might see the GOP continue to overlook the criminality and it all comes down to 2020. Unless it's so illegal it is not in congress's hands but the courts, and he quits, or his cabinet get so sick of his antics he is somehow removed under the 25th amendment.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by budgie View Post
                      Jesus that was quick. Just this morning a pundit on Al Jazeera predicted he might leave in a few weeks.

                      Think Trump is making a play to shut down Mueller before the next congress is in session?

                      Or is he just lashing out because he took a shellacking in the midterms and Sessions was the next sucker to walk in the room...
                      Shellacking? under trump the GOP lost 29? house seats and gained 2 Senate seats. Lets look at the last 2 dem potus

                      Midterm during Obama's first term:

                      House seats: - 63
                      Senate seats: - 6

                      Midterm during Clinton's first term:

                      House seats: - 52
                      Senate seats: - 8


                      If trump was shellacked these guys were prison gangbanged



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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Linedoggie View Post
                        Shellacking? under trump the GOP lost 29? house seats and gained 2 Senate seats. Lets look at the last 2 dem potus

                        Midterm during Obama's first term:

                        House seats: - 63
                        Senate seats: - 6

                        Midterm during Clinton's first term:

                        House seats: - 52
                        Senate seats: - 8


                        If trump was shellacked these guys were prison gangbanged


                        Get out of here with those facts.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by HisRoyalHighness View Post

                          Get out of here with those facts.
                          Conspiracy theory facts.

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