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    China Uighurs: Xinjiang legalises 'reeducation' camps

    By giving these camps a legal footing, China appears to have confirmed what many have been saying for months: that it is running a string of re-education camps for Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang in the name of combating extremism.

    In newly published regulations detailing the camps, China has given them a vague-sounding name. It calls them "vocational skills and educational training centres".

    But it is clear their purpose is not just about giving people the ability to get a better job.

    The regulations say they are for people "influenced by extremism". The point is to correct bad behaviour, and ensure those inside them undergo psychological counselling and ideological education.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-45812419

    So the camps which never existed are now legalized. Convenient.

  • #2
    Every demographic gets their own reeducation camp, that's so sweet of 'em.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Devil Child View Post
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      So the camps which never existed are now legalized. Convenient.
      The "camps" that West has been portraying never existed and do not exist. Trying to link that fantasy camp to this one is "convenient" in the West.

      I like the word choice, too. Chinese do have a word for "reeducation" which was indeed used during the 50s and 60s. But this time, the word used by Chinese is "deradicalization." Why change the Chinese word to "reeducation?" We all know why. This is to satisfy the Western narrative.

      Lastly, how much do you want to bet that nothing meaningful will be done by the West about these "camps?" It is because even the West knows its limits when dealing with a fake made-up story. This is just like how West reacted to the organ harvest smear stories.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by pla View Post

        The "camps" that West has been portraying never existed and do not exist. Trying to link that fantasy camp to this one is "convenient" in the West.

        I like the word choice, too. Chinese do have a word for "reeducation" which was indeed used during the 50s and 60s. But this time, the word used by Chinese is "deradicalization." Why change the Chinese word to "reeducation?" We all know why. This is to satisfy the Western narrative.

        Lastly, how much do you want to bet that nothing meaningful will be done by the West about these "camps?" It is because even the West knows its limits when dealing with a fake made-up story. This is just like how West reacted to the organ harvest smear stories.
        So they do exist, I suppose the illegal occupation of Tibet never happened either?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Connaught Ranger View Post

          So they do exist, I suppose the illegal occupation of Tibet never happened either?
          Of course, it never happened. Ask your own government for answers, don't ask China. Most, if not all, countries consider Tibet as part of China, not "illegal occupation."

          Again, reality is very different.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by pla View Post

            Lastly, how much do you want to bet that nothing meaningful will be done by the West about these "camps?" It is because even the West knows its limits when dealing with a fake made-up story. This is just like how West reacted to the organ harvest smear stories.

            What should we do bomb you?

            You have nukes so you can de-radicalize or whatever euphemism you prefer all day long.

            Just don't expect the West to nod it through.


            We still can make our own conclusions.

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            • #7
              It s fun to see throwing stone at one country when they would advocate the same thing at home

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              • #8
                Older but detailed article on the re-education camps...I mean de-radicalization and employment centers.

                New Evidence for China’s Political Re-Education Campaign in Xinjiang

                Since summer of 2017, troubling reports in Western media outlets about large-scale detentions of ethnic Muslim minorities (including Uyghurs, Kazakhs and Kyrgyz) in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region (XUAR) have multiplied (RFA, May 4). These reports include substantial anecdotal and eyewitness evidence describing a network of clandestine “re-education camps” in which detainees can be held indefinitely without process or recourse (AP News, December 17, 2017; Wall Street Journal, December 19, 2017).

                The existence of these camps is denied by the Chinese government. In February of this year, during an interview with the Almaty Tengri News, Zhang Wei, China’s Consul General in Kazakhstan, issued what is to date the only statement by a Chinese public official on the reputed camp network. In reference to a CNN report on the camps, Zhang argued that “we do not have such an idea in China” (AKIpress, February 7; CNN, February 3). This article demonstrates that there is, in fact, a substantial body of PRC governmental sources that prove the existence of the camps. Furthermore, the PRC government’s own sources broadly corroborate some estimates by rights groups of number of individuals interred in the camps. While estimates of internment numbers remain speculative, the available evidence suggests that a significant percentage of Xinjiang’s Muslim minority population, likely at least several hundred thousand, and possibly just over one million, are or have been interned in political re-education facilities.

                Overall, it is possible that the region’s re-education system exceeds the size of China’s entire former “education through labor” system that was officially abolished in 2013. The article also examines the evolution of re-education in Xinjiang, empirically charting the unprecedented re-education drive initiated by the region’s Party secretary, Chen Quanguo. Information from 73 government procurement and construction bids valued at around RMB 680 million (approximately USD 108 million) along with public recruitment notices and other documents provide unprecedented insights into the evolution and extent of the region’s re-education campaign.
                https://jamestown.org/program/eviden...rticle_inline#


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mordoror View Post
                  It s fun to see throwing stone at one country when they would advocate the same thing at home
                  Any sources for this claim?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Devil Child View Post
                    Older but detailed article on the re-education camps...I mean de-radicalization and employment centers.

                    New Evidence for China’s Political Re-Education Campaign in Xinjiang



                    https://jamestown.org/program/eviden...rticle_inline#

                    Since summer of 2017, troubling reports in Western media outlets about large-scale detentions of ethnic Muslim minorities (including Uyghurs, Kazakhs and Kyrgyz) in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region (XUAR) have multiplied (RFA, May 4). These reports include substantial anecdotal and eyewitness evidence describing a network of clandestine “re-education camps” in which detainees can be held indefinitely without process or recourse (AP News, December 17, 2017; Wall Street Journal, December 19, 2017).
                    Lol! yeah, these "substantial anecdotal and eyewitness" also described Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program. By the way, in case you did not hear about this, US is finally pulling the plug on tens of thousands of fake Chinese asylum seekers who told lies about China to stay in US.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by picanha View Post


                      What should we do bomb you?

                      You have nukes so you can de-radicalize or whatever euphemism you prefer all day long.

                      Just don't expect the West to nod it through.


                      We still can make our own conclusions.

                      What you should do is stop making things to smear China, but we all know that is simply impossible. Just because you should doesn't mean you can. So I don't blame the West. You simply cannot stop yourself.

                      Haha, we don't expect the West to nod. Why would we want that? Our lives would be better off if you nod? Yeah, India has your approval, and that is helping them out big time. Just watch, China will provide more positive influences to India than the West. All West can help India with is to tell them: "at least you have 'freedom'!"

                      Of course, you can make your own conclusions. Do we care what conclusions you make? We make our own conclusions, so we expect you to make yours, too.

                      China would be worried when the West is nodding, when the West is not weaning or complaining about China. So please do not nod...

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                      • #12
                        If China doesn't care about Western opinions or conclusions why does it and by extension you seem to be so emotionally reactive to anything critical or unflattering regarding China?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by muck View Post
                          Every demographic gets their own reeducation camp, that's so sweet of 'em.
                          In US, that is called prison. Blacks are being locked up at 5 times the rate as whites.

                          To deal with extremism, China and the West are taking two different paths. The Chinese method is to provide stable jobs to extremists and potential ones, while the West is trying to find them and kill them. Of course, in the process of killing them, the West is creating even more extremists. It is about hearts and minds, not the number of dead bodies.

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                          • #14
                            Happy camps, work will set you free.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by pla View Post

                              Of course, it never happened. Ask your own government for answers, don't ask China. Most, if not all, countries consider Tibet as part of China, not "illegal occupation."

                              Again, reality is very different.


                              Typical answer from a Chi-com Bot!!

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