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    California DMV admits that non-citizens are registered to vote

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...e-california-/

    The DMV said about 1,500 people may have been incorrectly registered between April 23 and Sept. 25 because of a “processing error.” That includes legal residents who are not citizens, although the DMV says none of the people mistakenly registered are people living in the country illegally.

    Incorrect registrations will be canceled by the secretary of state, DMV spokeswoman Jessica Gonzalez said.

    DMV Director Jean Shiomoto and California Department of Technology Director Amy Tong notified the secretary of state about the problem in a Monday letter. It’s the latest issue the department has reported with its new “motor voter” registration system. Last month, the department announced it may have botched about 23,000 voter registrations because of a separate error.

    “I remain deeply frustrated and disappointed that persistent errors by the DMV and CDT have undermined public confidence,” Secretary of State Alex Padilla wrote in a letter calling for an audit.

  • #2
    How convenient can these "processing errors" coming from a State that wants to give the right to vote to illegals.

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    • #3
      Genuine question, are legal residents entitled to vote on any scale? For example in the UK resident Commonwealth or European citizens can vote in local elections, but can't vote in a General Election.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Corrupt View Post
        Genuine question, are legal residents entitled to vote on any scale? For example in the UK resident Commonwealth or European citizens can vote in local elections, but can't vote in a General Election.
        As far as I know they are not.

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        • #5
          Fair enough, I'd just be more inclined to believe it was an honest mistake if they could vote in state or county elections and someone ticked one box too many rather than they can't vote at all.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Corrupt View Post
            Fair enough, I'd just be more inclined to believe it was an honest mistake if they could vote in state or county elections and someone ticked one box too many rather than they can't vote at all.
            It seemed to me, as I read the article, that the DMV was automatically enrolling persons who got their drivers license, instead of checking for citizenship.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Corrupt View Post
              Genuine question, are legal residents entitled to vote on any scale? For example in the UK resident Commonwealth or European citizens can vote in local elections, but can't vote in a General Election.
              Yes, a Lawful Permanent Resident status holder (= green card) may vote in certain elections that do not require US citizenship.

              Can Permanent Residents Vote?

              One of the most important privileges of democracy in the United States of America is the right to participate in choosing elected officials through voting. As a Permanent Resident you can only vote in local and state elections that do not require you to be a U.S. citizen. It is very important that you do not vote in national, state or local elections that require a voter to be a U.S. citizen when you are not a U.S. citizen. There are criminal penalties for voting when you are not a U.S. citizen and it is a requirement for voting. You can be removed (deported) from the U.S. if you vote in elections limited to U.S. citizens.

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              • #8
                The DMV automatically registering them to vote, perhaps the persons didn't indicate that they weren't citizens.

                California’s motor voter law letting residents automatically register to vote took effect in April. Since then, people have newly registered or updated their voter registration more than a million times. The new law is aimed at making it easier for people to register and boosting voter turnout.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cowboy's daughter View Post
                  The DMV automatically registering them to vote, perhaps the persons didn't indicate that they weren't citizens.
                  Automatically registering them to vote may make criminals out of some of them as an unintended side effect............potentially leading them to be deported for a crime committed by the DMV?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tercio67 View Post

                    Automatically registering them to vote may make criminals out of some of them as an unintended side effect............potentially leading them to be deported for a crime committed by the DMV?
                    It looks like it's on the person getting the drivers license

                    California Motor Voter. ... Eligible applicants completing a driver license, identification (ID) card or change of address transaction online, by mail or in person at the DMV will be automatically registered to vote by the California Secretary of State, unless they choose to opt out of automatic voter registration.

                    https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/cal...a-motor-voter/


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                    • #11
                      To tick a box or not to tick a box, that is the DMV’s question....

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by tercio67 View Post

                        Yes, a Lawful Permanent Resident status holder (= green card) may vote in certain elections that do not require US citizenship.
                        https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/20/us/no...sco/index.html

                        Just to further expand upon what tercio67 stated, the decisions to allow non citizens the right to vote in certain local and state elections are decided upon at the local level. I've attached an article above from CNN that illustrates the principle.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Cowboy's daughter View Post

                          It looks like it's on the person getting the drivers license

                          California Motor Voter. ... Eligible applicants completing a driver license, identification (ID) card or change of address transaction online, by mail or in person at the DMV will be automatically registered to vote by the California Secretary of State, unless they choose to opt out of automatic voter registration.

                          https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/cal...a-motor-voter/

                          In essence, a person can automatically become a felon simply by trying to do the right thing, such as getting a driver's license, and simply failing to tell the DMV that they don't want to vote. That's about the most idiotic thing that I've ever heard. Any poor soul who has had to spend 3 hours in a DMV line here in the US knows that no one will be paying attention to that detail after spending all morning at the DMV, aka HELL.

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                          • #14
                            Especially if they don't speak English or art trying to hide/minimize some issue they have with being fully legal.

                            This is a lack of care/duty by the DMW. Underlying the process problem that allows it through is either a willful mindset to let it happen or a blind allegiance to project process that doesn't take into account that it would happen.

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                            • #15
                              The slippery slop could be, though, to demand certain rights to be handed to them based on the fact that they have the ability to vote. For instance, an individual being able to vote becomes, therefore, a de facto legal US citizen.

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