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  • NATO official threatens Russia with preemptive military attack

    Here is an interesting article I came across: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1MC1J6

    BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Russia must halt its covert development of a banned cruise missile system or the United States will seek to destroy it before it becomes operational, Washington’s envoy to NATO said on Tuesday. The United States believes Russia is developing a ground-launched system in breach of a Cold War treaty that could allow Russia to launch a nuclear strike on Europe at short notice, but Moscow has consistently denied any such violation.U.S. ambassador to NATO Kay Bailey Hutchison said Washington remained committed to a diplomat solution but was prepared to consider a military strike if Russian development of the medium-range system continued.“At that point, we would be looking at the capability to take out a (Russian) missile that could hit any of our countries,” she told a news conference.
    Discuss.....

  • #2
    Reading between the political lines, I guess this means all is well in Moscow, and all is not so well in NATO, whatever it may be

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    • #3
      Originally posted by levi7 View Post
      Reading between the political lines, I guess this means all is well in Moscow, and all is not so well in NATO, whatever it may be

      There is nothing to read bewen lines russia has been dabbling in developing weapons that violate the treaty for a while now. US should just declare it dead and everyone start acting like grown up alduts instead of hiding head in the sand.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Asheren View Post


        There is nothing to read bewen lines russia has been dabbling in developing weapons that violate the treaty for a while now. US should just declare it dead and everyone start acting like grown up alduts instead of hiding head in the sand.

        Yes, but likewise the US has been violating said treaty as well (stationing Mk-41 launchers, using missile "targets" with characteristics of banned missiles, investing in long-range strike drones).....Yet Russia hasn't exactly threatened the US with preemptive military attack in regards to this "treaty violation"......

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Asheren View Post
          There is nothing to read bewen lines russia has been dabbling in developing weapons that violate the treaty for a while now. US should just declare it dead and everyone start acting like grown up alduts instead of hiding head in the sand.
          I think what you're basically trying to say is that in mid to late 2000s Putin warned the west about the dangers of a new arms race, did so publicly on countless occasions, and was completely ignored. (to no surprise) He also warned that if NATO will refuse to cooperate on expanding its European defense systems and strategies, Russia will be forced to respond. Again was ignored.
          This is what you were trying to say.

          And now, hence, if we read between the lines, this means that not only Russia, but also NATO, both fully acknowledge that there's a new arms race, but one side continues to feign innocence and pretend like there isn't one.

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          • #6
            Kay Bailey Hutchison NEEDS TO TAKE A CHILL PILL. The American people don't want to hear that garbage.

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            • #7
              Don’t Russians have that crazy ass politician who ranted about using some secret Russian death ray to destroy the USA if we invaded Iraq? We had Clinton propose to shoot down Russian planes in Syria.

              Retards in every family.

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              • #8
                Clickbaity headline. The US representative voiced her opinion, it's not like this was an official NATO policy or something.

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                • #9
                  Alternative Headline: Deranged lunatic accidentally threatens to precipitate thermonuclear war.

                  Originally posted by muck View Post
                  Clickbaity headline. The US representative voiced her opinion, it's not like this was an official NATO policy or something.
                  Her words:
                  “The counter-measures would be to take out the missiles that are in development by Russia in violation of the treaty."

                  (...)

                  "Getting them to withdraw would be our choice, of course. But I think the question was what would you do if this continues to a point where we know that they are capable of delivering. And at that point we would then be looking at a capability to take out a missile that could hit any of our countries in Europe and hit America in Alaska.”
                  She also apparently messed up, and mistakenly referred to the 9M729 (the missile at the heart of this) as a ballistic missile (it is a ground-launched cruise missile).

                  This was more than 'opinion', given that she was speaking in her capacity as the US NATO ambassador, at an official press meet. More a case of this woman being told to harp on the Russians for violating the IMF treaty, and badly messing it up.

                  Did she mean to threaten a nuclear war? Probably not. But it was a grossly idiotic and irresponsible thing to say anyhow. If this is the kind of calibre of people running the US government right now, Armageddon might be closer than we think.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jonathan View Post
                    Don’t Russians have that crazy ass politician who ranted about using some secret Russian death ray to destroy the USA if we invaded Iraq? We had Clinton propose to shoot down Russian planes in Syria.

                    Retards in every family.
                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Zhirinovsky

                    If you google crazy Russian politician.

                    Thing is, he seems to act out a role, a harmless clown that provides a hopeless "other party" to UR.

                    Either way, this is not an official statement.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Kilgor View Post

                      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Zhirinovsky

                      If you google crazy Russian politician.

                      Thing is, he seems to act out a role, a harmless clown that provides a hopeless "other party" to UR.

                      Either way, this is not an official statement.
                      That’s the dude! My favorite part:

                      In a 2003 video,[73] a drunken Zhirinovsky threatened George W. Bush in offensive language. He called the United States a "second-hand goods store" filled with "cocksuckers, handjobbers, and faggots", and claimed that Russian scientists are able to change the gravitational field of the Earth and sink the entire country
                      He proposed setting up large fans on the borders to blow airborne radioactive waste into the Baltic states.
                      Why Russians haven’t elected this man to be president I will never know.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Asheren View Post


                        There is nothing to read bewen lines russia has been dabbling in developing weapons that violate the treaty for a while now. US should just declare it dead and everyone start acting like grown up alduts instead of hiding head in the sand.
                        Treaty violations you say? Like Honoring Ukraine's sovereignty if it gave up its Nukes to Russia
                        Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances





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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Jonathan View Post
                          Don’t Russians have that crazy ass politician who ranted about using some secret Russian death ray to destroy the USA if we invaded Iraq? We had Clinton propose to shoot down Russian planes in Syria.

                          Retards in every family.
                          It would've been cool if they had a death ray, could've minaturised it so I could take out random shit like tinny cans or an odd shaped plastic toy. I'd say some sort of insect that give me the creep crawleys but people will get offended track you down and mess with your shit or try and ram their car into yours. You know.. wankers.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Linedoggie View Post
                            Treaty violations you say? Like Honoring Ukraine's sovereignty if it gave up its Nukes to Russia
                            Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances


                            #1) Ukraine NEVER had control of the nuclear weapons on its territory except for physical possession......
                            #2) Ukraine gave these up due to the fact it was in NO ONEs interest for said arms/material to be in the possesion of yet more states - nor did it really have a use for them, or easily afford them.
                            #3) Budapest Memorandum was never binding
                            #4) Budapest Memorandum was about Ukraines 'Sovereignty' which one could very easily argue was violated the very second foreign ambassadors/politicians started showing up encouraging protestors against the elected government - whilst said governments likewise threatened Ukraine with sanctions should it use its security forces....

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                            • #15
                              Russians, they're so sensible. That's why I like them best.

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