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    Narcoterrorism and the KKK Model: Inside the Rise of Latin America’s ‘Gangster Warlords’



    As for Mexico, a recent study makes the case that the current infierno de violencia is now the second-worst conflict in the world behind Syria.
    There were 23,000 homicides in Mexico last year, making it the second-deadliest conflict zone in the world after Syria, and ranking it ahead of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    As in certain parts of Mexico, the security crisis is so severe in El Salvador that citizen militias called autodefensas are taking up arms to fight the gangs themselves.

    The loss of state control to violence-crazed, paramilitary outlaw and vigilante groups across Latin America is an ominous sign, indicative of a twisted new species of conflict that experts say is already impacting U.S. interests.
    Cartels want to be left alone “to rule their fiefdoms, not for symbolic reasons,” but for economic ones, Downs adds, “to make money” and “assert control over the laboring population.”



    http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2017/0...el-inside.html

  • #2
    Originally posted by Cowboy's daughter View Post

    Governments want to be left alone “to rule their fiefdoms, not for symbolic reasons,” but for economic ones, Downs adds, “to make money” and “assert control over the laboring population.”

    http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2017/0...el-inside.html

    Best of luck to them. That's one reason we have a Second Amendment.

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    • #3
      Looking at what is happening in Mexico, persons in the Southern border States imho had better hang onto their guns.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Cowboy's daughter View Post
        Looking at what is happening in Mexico, persons in the Southern border States imho had better hang onto their guns.
        There are more guns in Texas than in all of Mexico. around 4 million more in fact. Hopefully none will be needed.

        http://concealednation.org/2016/01/h...her-countries/

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        • #5
          Cartel hit in Texas

          "El Mora" of BLO Luis Lauro Ramirez Bautista was captured a few days ago. He ordered the hit on Osiel's lawyer in Texas.

          Stalking their prey
          Surveillance men describe tracking a drug cartel lawyer before his Southlake assassination
          The surveillance men described their roles to investigators after their arrests. They said the hit was not ordered by calculating drug lords for business reasons. Rather, they said, it was ordered by a bitterly angry son hellbent on avenging the death of his father.

          http://interactives.dallasnews.com/2016/chapa/



          Comments are he was dirty, but idk.

          Border Patrol Agent Kidnapped, Beaten, and Fingers Cut Off

          http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2017/0...ed-beaten.html



          Two men charged with kidnapping, beating of Border Patrol agent

          http://www.elpasoproud.com/news/two-...gent/743565299

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          • #6
            But, but, but ... Our European friends tell us that guns are BAAAD, and under ABSOLUTELY NO CIRCUMSTANCES should civilians have access to arms.

            You mean to say our European friends are wrong, and victims should not just accept their fate because guns are BAAAD???

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            • #7
              Originally posted by GB_FXST View Post
              But, but, but ... Our European friends tell us that guns are BAAAD, and under ABSOLUTELY NO CIRCUMSTANCES should civilians have access to arms.

              You mean to say our European friends are wrong, and victims should not just accept their fate because guns are BAAAD???
              You know you are just bastardizing what some Europeans said in the other, when all they were pointing out is this is an apples to oranges comparison. This is not terrorism but just really competitive pharmaceutical/agriculture businessmen in healthy competition.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Junglejim View Post
                You know you are just bastardizing what some Europeans said in the other, when all they were pointing out is this is an apples to oranges comparison. This is not terrorism but just really competitive pharmaceutical/agriculture businessmen in healthy competition.
                Well played sir, well played.

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                • #9
                  No need to be the condescending douche now is there? Instead of being broad brush, have the balls to identify those who stated it. Some of us aren't against wider firearms ownerships, it just seems some of you cannot get your head around the work required to implement it. And as I have stated time and time again, seeing the bureaucratic fuck-ups the UK makes of far less serious issues, I'd have no faith, it would end badly. That is why I am reticent to it. I live and breathe this culture and have seen and know the mindset of some people.

                  But as per usual, none of you had a coherent argument or suggestion on how a country that has such minimal firearms ownership would successfully re-integrate wider types. So before you chops off, try being objective and offer us the weight of your immense knowledge.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by GB_FXST View Post
                    But, but, but ... Our European friends tell us that guns are BAAAD, and under ABSOLUTELY NO CIRCUMSTANCES should civilians have access to arms.

                    You mean to say our European friends are wrong, and victims should not just accept their fate because guns are BAAAD???
                    Why are you assuming all Europeans think this way? Look up some stats as to the countries and firearms possession per capita, interestingly half of them are Euro nations like Serbia, Switzerland, Finland and France. Not EU necessarily but still European.

                    For historic reasons the two continents are divided on the CCW which as far as I know don't exist in Europe because no second amendment. There are dozen millions weapons and I'm probably way off mark yet well hidden in our attics for hunting reasons, because of past wars etc.

                    The broader generalization that all Europeans think firearms are 'bad' is a bit much. Most weapons and rifles here are legally owned, those that aren't come from the Balkans and the black market and end up in bad guys hands like terrorists, drug dealers and mobs and it's the job of the police to disarm those scums.

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                    • #11
                      ^ What he said. Besides, there's a tremendous difference between arguing against guns, and arguing against guns making a difference in the big picture. The latter being pretty damn obvious, by the way or else armed Texas wouldn't be suffering from mass shootings, or Mexican villages guarded by armed citizens would be the safest places in that country. Yelling "more guns" is as stupid as yelling "gun control". It's the easy button of people who're too afraid to admit they don't know what the hell to do about an issue. "More guns" might be a solution if coupled with a bunch of other measures, maybe even legalizing drugs to cut the ground from under the cartel's feet (personally I don't believe that); but doing naught about the condition and only about the symptoms is a waste of blood, money and time and certainly not an idea to be proud of.

                      Is it really fair to compare Mexico to Syria, though? I was always led to believe the majority of all killings took place in cartel-v-cartel violence, or against people caught in the middle like government personnel and the media. In other words, what's the percentage of collateral damage?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JakeScully View Post

                        Why are you assuming all Europeans think this way? Look up some stats as to the countries and firearms possession per capita, interestingly half of them are Euro nations like Serbia, Switzerland, Finland and France. Not EU necessarily but still European.

                        For historic reasons the two continents are divided on the CCW which as far as I know don't exist in Europe because no second amendment. There are dozen millions weapons and I'm probably way off mark yet well hidden in our attics for hunting reasons, because of past wars etc.

                        The broader generalization that all Europeans think firearms are 'bad' is a bit much. Most weapons and rifles here are legally owned, those that aren't come from the Balkans and the black market and end up in bad guys hands like terrorists, drug dealers and mobs and it's the job of the police to disarm those scums.
                        Because of the pearls of wisdom offered by Jumper and @Mordoror

                        To my European brothas, no personal offense meant, but honestly, some HTFU cream may help.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by muck View Post

                          Is it really fair to compare Mexico to Syria, though? I was always led to believe the majority of all killings took place in cartel-v-cartel violence, or against people caught in the middle like government personnel and the media. In other words, what's the percentage of collateral damage?
                          Problem is, the police and military are notoriously corrupt.

                          One year ago, 43 Mexican students were killed. Still, there are no answers for their families
                          https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...lled-students-

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by muck View Post
                            ^ What he said. Besides, there's a tremendous difference between arguing against guns, and arguing against guns making a difference in the big picture. The latter being pretty damn obvious, by the way or else armed Texas wouldn't be suffering from mass shootings, or Mexican villages guarded by armed citizens would be the safest places in that country. Yelling "more guns" is as stupid as yelling "gun control". It's the easy button of people who're too afraid to admit they don't know what the hell to do about an issue. "More guns" might be a solution if coupled with a bunch of other measures, maybe even legalizing drugs to cut the ground from under the cartel's feet (personally I don't believe that); but doing naught about the condition and only about the symptoms is a waste of blood, money and time and certainly not an idea to be proud of.

                            Is it really fair to compare Mexico to Syria, though? I was always led to believe the majority of all killings took place in cartel-v-cartel violence, or against people caught in the middle like government personnel and the media. In other words, what's the percentage of collateral damage?
                            Say what??

                            As in certain parts of Mexico, the security crisis is so severe in El Salvador that citizen militias called autodefensas are taking up arms to fight the gangs themselves.



                            http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2017/0...el-inside.html


                            http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

                            ^^ Gun Violence Archive
                            mass shootings

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                            • #15
                              All guns should be made illegal.

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