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  • Riots in Poland after a boy is murdered by Tunisian kebab worker on NYE

    Riots have erupted in Poland after a 21 year old Polish boy was murdered by Tunisian kebab worker on NYE.

    A Polish boy was murdered on NYE in the city of Elk after playing with fireworks.

    The main culprit according to media is a 29 year old Tunisian worker, although other captured people involved in the event are from Algeria and Morrocco.

    The day after this crime people have gathered in the place of murder to honor the victim.

    Hundreds of outraged citizens have begun protesting and chanting slogans like "F*ck Islam".

    The foreign owned kebab shop has been demolished to enthusiastic cheering of gathered local crowds(see video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1UVYXs3aNc)

    Police have arrested so far 25 men and one woman after scuffles erupted with police.

    Riots have also spread to the city of Lubin.


    Some politicians have also commented that they are connected to the refugee wave threatening Europe and feelings of resistance to it.

    These sad events show how even with small immigrant community, Poland has experienced murder and violence.

    Let's hope they will be a lesson and we will be able to preserve our identity and country.

    http://elk.wm.pl/408830,Policja-zatr...#axzz4UZND4MJ3

    http://wirtualnyelk.pl/aktualnosci/8060- zamieszki-w-miescie-po-zabojstwie-mlodeg o-mezczyzny.html
    Last edited by Smokey; 02-01-2017, 03:58 AM.

  • #2
    I hope Poland will preserve its identity and culture, though more in a lawful way, with a simple say no to unrestricted immigration, enforced by EU.

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    • #3
      A bit harsh to call 21 years young man, for boy.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Scarren View Post
        A bit harsh to call 21 years young man, for boy.
        That's how media are calling him. And rightfully, 21 year old is still a boy.

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        • #5
          21 and a boy, make up your mind, and this "boy" has a long criminal sheet.

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          • #6
            Polish "boy":
            - age 21
            - prior to this appeared 4 times in court as a suspect,
            - including unlawful threats and robbery in 2016,
            His other "boy" friend was also known to local LEOs. Both of them had prior convictions. That's according to info gathered by Newsweek as well as the info provided by local prosecutor's office.

            According to witnesses he and other man got into an argument in kebab stand, after this "Polish boy" walked out of the stand with 2 bottles of drink, which he stole from the stand. Employees of the kebab stand followed him and tried to take back what he stole. Then his "boy" friend threw fireworks inside the kebab stand. This resulted in direct confrontation between the employees and "Polish boys" during which "boy" got stabbed twice.

            None of the four detained foreign employees of the kebab stand had any prior convictions.

            It's worth noting that another kebab stand in Ełk was attacked last year, on March 25th. This was only three days after Brussel bombing. Place got attacked by a group of neonazis, or "local Patriots", during which one of the attackers got stabbed by an employee of the kebab stand.

            Here's a pro tip. If you try attacking a cook, who uses knives on a daily basis, expect to be facing a guy wielding a knife.

            Originally posted by AwesomeVladimir View Post
            I hope Poland will preserve its identity and culture, though more in a lawful way, with a simple say no to unrestricted immigration, enforced by EU.
            There's no direct threat to our identity and culture. Thousand of Poles visit kebab stands on a daily basis, some of them include "True Patriots", i.e. football hooligans. I guess they don't mind the color of the skin or religion when cheap food is concerned.

            We're not dealing with a attack of "Islamic radical", we're dealing with direct confrontation between local criminal element and employees of a food stand. It just happens that the food stand happens to be a kebab stand employing foreigners (which is a common practice). Hell, one of the biggest kebab chains in my voivodeship is owned by a Syrian that's been living in Poland for 25 years and his brother is a plastic surgeon.

            You can notice how our MIA Błaszczak is using this case for his own agenda. Usually we're dealing with "suspects" but here we're dealing with "murderer".

            Yesterday a group of people gathered in Ełk to light candles for the "victim", among them were "local Patriots" that attacked two kebab stands, broke windows, threw bottles, fired fireworks and rocks at the police officers. 28 people were detained by the police, some of them drunk.

            Originally posted by Smokey View Post

            That's how media are calling him. And rightfully, 21 year old is still a boy.
            Nobody is calling him a boy. Everyone is using "Male, age 21". Unless you consider "21-latek" (Male, age 21) to be a synonym for "boy".
            Last edited by Chomiq; 02-01-2017, 05:20 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Chomiq View Post
              Polish "boy":
              - age 21
              - prior to this appeared 4 times in court as a suspect,
              - including unlawful threats and robbery in 2016,
              His other "boy" friend was also known to local LEOs. Both of them had prior convictions. That's according to info gathered by Newsweek as well as the info provided by local prosecutor's office.

              .
              Ah, how predictable, in defense of foreigners try to smear a murdered boy.

              We're not dealing with a attack of "Islamic radical", we're dealing with direct confrontation between local criminal element and employees of a food stand
              They are not "employees" they are criminals who were involved in murder of a Polish national. You do understand that murder is a crime in Poland, right?


              There's no direct threat to our identity and culture.
              Of course there is, and majority of Poles believe so too, according to polls.
              Our culture doesn't believe in resolving conflicts with stabbing people to death.

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              • #8
                It is still not good to kill anyone, be they locals with a criminal record or immigrants.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Smokey View Post

                  Ah, how predictable, in defense of foreigners try to smear a murdered boy.



                  They are not "employees" they are criminals who were involved in murder of a Polish national. You do understand that murder is a crime in Poland, right?



                  Of course there is, and majority of Poles believe so too, according to polls.
                  Our culture doesn't believe in resolving conflicts with stabbing people to death.
                  You mean that prosecutor is trying to smear a memory of a criminal?

                  Employees are suspects in an investigation into a death of a male, age 21, who had prior convictions. One of the employees, a Tunisian male age 26, admitted that he might have wounded the "boy" during the struggle.

                  Our culture doesn't believe in resolving conflicts by stabbing people to death? Are you fucking serious?
                  http://www.gazetakrakowska.pl/wiadom...jety,11536928/
                  Man stabbed with knife, perpetrator caught.
                  http://lodz.eska.pl/newsy/awantura-w...-stanie/332470
                  Man stabbed in a pub, suspect age 16.
                  http://www.bialystokonline.pl/dzgnie...6166,14,1.html
                  Białystok, next to Ełk - 23 year old woman tried to kill woman out of jealousy, stabbed her 4 times with a 20cm knife.

                  And those are only first 3 news articles out of google.

                  SURELY WE DO NOT BELIEVE IN RESOLVING CONFLICTS BY STABBING SOMEONE TO DEATH.

                  Here's a video depicting how peaceful our True Patriots TM are:


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Chomiq View Post
                    bla bla bla
                    Some immigrant scum stabbed a guy to death for nothing and you are defending them. The whole ,,background" you provided here is absolutely pointless and doesn't change the fact that this murder should not have happened. Unfortunetaly the scum who killed him belongs to the violent, uncivilised culture where such action are on a daily basis - everywhere where they appear in a significant numbers knife attacks are becoming common thing (e.g. London).

                    Then his "boy" friend threw fireworks inside the kebab stand
                    What a horror . Similar incidients happens in Poland every day, not to mention during New Years Eve and i hardly ever hear about anyone being stabbed to deat for that and i NEVER hear about anyone defending scum who killed someone for that. I think you should thought through your posts because i think you have serious morality issues.

                    Not to mention that we don't really know what happneed there.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Chomiq View Post

                      You mean that prosecutor is trying to smear a memory of a criminal?

                      Employees are suspects in an investigation into a death of a male, age 21, who had prior convictions. One of the employees, a Tunisian male age 26, admitted that he might have wounded the "boy" during the struggle.
                      How many terms will you invent to describe something that has a simple name:murder.

                      Do you believe murdering a Polish boy for firing a firework is justified ?

                      Our culture doesn't believe in resolving conflicts by stabbing people to death?
                      No it doesn't. You are free to believe otherwise. Your views are quite clearly not those of majority of Polish people.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by hastati View Post

                        Some immigrant scum stabbed a guy to death for nothing and you are defending them. The whole ,,background" you provided here is absolutely pointless and doesn't change the fact that this murder should not have happened. Unfortunetaly the scum who killed him belongs from the violent, uncivilised culture where such action are on a daily basis - everywhere where they appear in significant numbers knife attacks are becoming common thing (e.g. London).
                        You do know that this might end up being a murder in self defense, right? What will do then?

                        "Samoistny charakter obrony koniecznej oznacza, że sama bezprawność i bezpośredniość zamachu implikuje prawo do odparcia zamachu kosztem dobra napastnika. W jej ramach można też poświęcić dobro napastnika o wyższej wartości, niż dobro bronione, co w istocie rzeczy nie wyklucza posłużenia się niebezpiecznym przedmiotem - nożem”.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Smokey View Post

                          How many terms will you invent to describe something that has a simple name:murder.

                          Do you believe murdering a Polish boy for firing a firework is justified ?


                          No it doesn't. You are free to believe otherwise. Your views are quite clearly not those of majority of Polish people.
                          Right, because statistics are so wrong:
                          http://statystyka.policja.pl/st/wybr...ciu-broni.html
                          2611 cases of use of "dangerous tool" in 2014, AFAIK knives fall under this description.

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                          • #14
                            Interior Minister Blaszczak:

                            http://ro.com.pl/minister-blaszczak-...eczna/01315861

                            His view:

                            Poland is relatively safe compared to Western countries because we didn't let in Muslim immigrants. Our NYE was generally safe, besides the murder in Elk, nothing compared to mass murder committed by Islamic terrorists in Turkey where 39 people were killed. Because PiS is not letting them in, there are no major Muslim enclaves in Poland. Outrage of people protesting in Elk is understandable because they are afraid that what happened in the West(Nice, Brussels, Berlin) could happen in Poland.

                            He also informed that the Tunisian has been charged with homicide.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Chomiq View Post

                              You do know that this might end up being a murder in self defense, right? What will do then?
                              You would believe in any scenario just to defend immigrants who murdered a Pole. Unfortunately for you it won't end up being classified as ,,self-defence".

                              Some barabarians simply solved the conflict just like they always do, according to their culture. Simple as that.

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