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  • "Which fits well into the since-long generally agreed-upon narrative"

    One side still claims nothing happaned, no one died or got injured, and no gas of any kind was used at all "everything is a Photoshop"

    While not providing any evidence for their claims.

    And why would someone lie that much if they are innocent and have nothing to hide?

    Simple, they wouldn't.



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    • Originally posted by filochard View Post
      Still it's not very sane to rely on foreigners to kill our own traitors but well..
      I thought outsourcing was how modern business worked?

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      • all those tears for a couple of beards

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        • Originally posted by Tobi View Post
          Conclusion: chemical cylinders were dropped from the air.

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          • Originally posted by Fred333 View Post
            all those tears for a couple of beards

            Yep, our sympathy goes for Douma's women and children, which you seems to consider as subhumans. Why don't you make some meme with beards painted on their dead faces. That would fit for your feelings about them, and for the mentality of the rest of Assad's cult btw.

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            • Russian State TV Distorts The Intercept’s Reporting on a Syrian Chemical Attack


              According to Russia 24, a Russian government news channel, a recent investigation by The Intercept supports a conspiracy theory promoted by Russian officials: that there was no chemical attack in the Syrian town of Douma last year, and video of victims was fabricated to provoke American airstrikes. But The Intercept report featured in the Russian broadcast actually concluded the opposite: that a chemical attack did take place in Douma on the night of April 7, 2018.

              As James Harkin reported for The Intercept earlier this month, the civilians whose lifeless bodies were seen in extremely graphic footage recorded by opposition activists immediately after the attack were most likely killed by chlorine gas from a canister dropped from airspace that was under the exclusive control of the Syrian government and its ally, Russia. That conclusion was bolstered by a careful examination of images of the canister recorded by Russian government journalists and Syrian activists conducted by Forensic Architecture, an investigative team led by Eyal Weizman, an expert in spatial analysis.

              The Russia 24 report, which described The Intercept as “a sort of successor to WikiLeaks,” distorts Harkin’s reporting by failing to even mention the video of dead civilians, with foam covering their mouths, found in the building the canister was dropped on. Instead, the Russian state broadcaster focuses exclusively on Harkin’s reporting about video recorded by activists from the pro-rebel Douma Revolution group the same night in another location, at a makeshift hospital where children were treated for possible chemical exposure.

              Russia 24 translated and quoted from an account provided to Harkin by Anas Sobheha, a medical worker in Douma who said he was in the hospital that night. Sobheha attributed the panic seen on the video to a false alarm triggered by a member of the Syria Civil Defence corps, known as the White Helmets, who said the children might have been exposed to chemicals. Harkin’s reporting suggests that the children were probably not exposed to the chlorine that was dropped in another part of Douma that night, but leaves open the possibility that the rush to treat them for possible exposure could have been the result of confusion. Harkin did not, as the Russia 24 report claims, conclude that the footage in the hospital “was surely staged.”

              The Russian report also claimed, incorrectly, that Harkin observed that “a cloud of misinformation” had “enveloped the international community” after the reported attack in Douma. In fact, he wrote something quite different. “Beyond the war in Syria,” Harkin observed, “the cloud of misinformation that enveloped the attack in Douma stands as a cautionary tale.”

              The Russia 24 producers illustrated their piece on Harkin’s work by borrowing images of him speaking about it to my Intercept colleague, Lauren Feeney, for a video report she produced on the ways in which open-source investigations have helped to cut through the fog of propaganda surrounding events in Syria. The Russian broadcast showed Harkin, but did not use audio of what he was saying, perhaps because his first words to Feeney were “there was some kind of chemical attack on the seventh of April 2018, in a place called Douma on the outskirts of Damascus.”

              Russia 24 also borrowed footage from Feeney’s report showing Weizman looking at a reconstruction of the canister’s impact crater produced by his team. Weizman told The Intercept that Forensic Architecture’s analysis of the evidence suggested that there was a deadly chemical attack, and that the canister found in the same building as the dead bodies was the most likely cause of death. Weizman’s team also concluded that, at some stage after the bombing, that canister, and a second one that was found nearby, appear to have been moved a short distance.

              “Our findings are much more subtle than what this ‘news piece’ makes them out to be: after a long analysis, which reviewed the architectural and video evidence, we found that the two canisters were dropped from the air which was exclusively controlled by the Syrian government and its Russian allies,” Weizman said after watching the Russia 24 report. “We also found evidence which suggests that the canisters might have been slightly moved from their original positions. But we do not know who touched them and for what reason. The latter finding does not affect our primary conclusion that the canisters were air dropped. Simply seizing on one aspect of our analysis — the one convenient to the government position — is a typical manipulation from the Russian post-truth factories.”

              The Russian broadcast also includes a few frames from my own interview with Feeney, in which I discussed evidence that a Russia 24 journalist misled viewers last year by concealing the fact that his interview with a young boy seen in the hospital video had been conducted not in Douma, but at a Syrian military facility in central Damascus, close to the headquarters of President Bashar al-Assad’s ministry of defense.

              The second part of Russia 24’s report is devoted to a series of tweets on the Douma attack posted by a Syrian producer for the BBC, Riam Dalati, and employs the same strategy of distortion by selective editing. In response to Harkin’s article, Dalati wrote that his own reporting indicated that the scene in the Douma hospital had been staged by activists close to the Army of Islam, a brutal Islamist militia that ruled Douma with an iron fist until April of last year.

              Dalati, who provided no evidence for his claim, and has not responded to requests to make his reporting public, was treated as a suddenly unimpeachable source by Russia 24, as well as Russian diplomats, who eagerly shared screenshots of most of his tweet thread, even after he made his account private.

              But Russian officials, and the country’s state broadcaster, were careful to omit Dalati’s first tweet on the subject, in which he praised Harkin’s analysis of how the events in Douma had degenerated into a propaganda battle between the Islamist rebels and two authoritarian governments, but also stated quite clearly that “The ATTACK DID HAPPEN.”

              https://theintercept.com/2019/02/27/...ercept-russia/

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              • Wonder if there is any truth to this:

                “Four F-117s Conducted Covert Air Strikes In Syria in 2017” Reputable Dutch “Scramble” Magazine Says
                https://theaviationist.com/2019/03/0...magazine-says/

                The F-117 has been officially retired since 2008, though some examples have been spotted flying in Nevada a couple of times since then.

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                • Love how the snakes are trying to weasel out of inconvenient report and pin it on Russia somehow again. So "emotional" and "caring" in it too, disgusting.

                  Russian positions is this attack was staged by white helmets all the rest is you grasping at sraws.

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                  • Originally posted by Tobi View Post
                    "Which fits well into the since-long generally agreed-upon narrative"

                    One side still claims nothing happaned, no one died or got injured, and no gas of any kind was used at all "everything is a Photoshop"

                    While not providing any evidence for their claims.

                    And why would someone lie that much if they are innocent and have nothing to hide?

                    Simple, they wouldn't.



                    ​Nice, but it's a small fish, compared with Lavrov himself:

                    "The event did not take place. What did take place was the stage. Stage thing. It did not involved any chemical weapons" (on Douma chemical attack)
                    "It was a fake from the beginning to the end" (on the Khan Shaykhun chemical attack)



                    And let's not forget those guys:
                    Originally posted by Ivan le Fou View Post
                    Experts in radiological, chemical & biological warfare, as well as medics, inspected the parts of Douma and reported no trace of alleged chemical weapons at the attack site.

                    https://www.rt.com/news/423627-russi...hemical-douma/

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                    • Originally posted by moosefoot View Post
                      Wonder if there is any truth to this:

                      “Four F-117s Conducted Covert Air Strikes In Syria in 2017” Reputable Dutch “Scramble” Magazine Says
                      https://theaviationist.com/2019/03/0...magazine-says/

                      The F-117 has been officially retired since 2008, though some examples have been spotted flying in Nevada a couple of times since then.
                      Unlikely but possible.

                      http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone...-east-recently

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                      • https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...160315079.html

                        US-backed Kurdish-led forces in northeastern Syria captured 400 ISIL fighters who were trying to escape the armed group's last enclave in eastern Syria.

                        A senior commander for the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) also said on Wednesday that hundreds more Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, ISIS) soldiers surrendered from the last shred of territory they control in the village of Baghouz in Deir Az Zor province.

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                        • Originally posted by haze17 View Post
                          https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...160315079.html

                          US-backed Kurdish-led forces in northeastern Syria captured 400 ISIL fighters who were trying to escape the armed group's last enclave in eastern Syria.

                          A senior commander for the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) also said on Wednesday that hundreds more Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, ISIS) soldiers surrendered from the last shred of territory they control in the village of Baghouz in Deir Az Zor province.
                          What will they do with all of them?

                          Maybe the creation of a New New Syrian Army from the ISIS captives to fight the SAA?

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                          • https://www.independent.ie/irish-new...-37894888.html

                            Ms Smith spent a decade in the Defence Forces, serving as a soldier in the Army for five years before joining the Air Corps.

                            Another "poor defenceless woman" went to join ISIS and get some sex tourism as well.
                            Hopefully the Syrian forces can help us all and keep her imprisoned, assuming our bleading heart politicians don't force us to take her back so she can quickly spread as much radicalisation as possible while taking as much money from social programmes as possible (i.e the government supporting ISIS )

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                            • Once upon a time, it was said the West was fighting in a "gloves on" attitude.

                              Now they have most of the IS literally surrounded in the open, in around 500 sq meters in that shithole place called Baghuz. That's literally 25 x 20 meters... let's make it 1 square kilometer. That's 33 x 33 meters. It's said hundreds of this vermin are packed there, in the open... and again the West grants its mercy.

                              Damn what do they expect for a godamned air raid!? I think a single 2000 pounder GBU would do the trick. ...and don't come with the "civilians BS" because no one, NO ONE is a fuc*ing civilian there. Not even kids. They incinerated Hiroshima and Nagasaki to cut it short and those were plenty of civvies... even POWs.

                              Let's keep dropping 5-6 GBUs on deserted and isolated IS flags...

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                              • I agree yeah, bomb 'em to hell, but alas, apparently the many jihadi brides MUST be repatriated to Europe at all cost because...reasons. I do feel sorry for the ISIS babies though, they deserve a second chance with worthy adoptive parents.

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