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  • Originally posted by north44 View Post

    Well I never fully understand this part. In the last 20 years, several regimes did not push their Air Force in harm's way to the point that the regime collapsed with the Air Force not even trying a lucky shot. Always waiting for "something bigger to happen".

    I fully agree, there is nothing in Syrian (or for that matter Russian) inventory that is a real tactical match for the IDF/AF or NATO. They can get lucky as they did with that S-200 in February, but that's it.
    They should rather push those MiG-29s to the ground attack role as they did in 2014. They are useless anyway.
    It's the aerial equivalent of the old 'fleet in being' concept. The idea was that a fleet, just by virtue of existing, exerts an influence on enemy tactics and strategy. One of the best examples of this was the German battleship Tirpitz during WWII - even though the Tirpitz never fired a shot in anger, the mere fact that she was available and ready to sortie meant that the Royal Navy had to act more cautiously than it would otherwise. Heavy escorts, which could have conceivably been put to use elsewhere, had to be devoted to convoy duties to counter the threat that the Tirpitz represented, even though that threat was never actually realized.

    The Syrian MiG-29 fleet functions in much the same way. Even though the MiGs will probably never see real action, the presence of modern jet fighters in the Syrian arsenal nonetheless influences Western and Israeli tactics and action. Consider, for example, the massive escort for that was deployed for the April 13th missile strikes - 36 fighters carrying AAMs. The threat represented by the Syrian aircraft demands that hostile powers take additional precautions and field additional escorts carrying AAMs instead of bombs, which complicates their logistical preparations and reduces their striking power.

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    • Whoever said the US is over stretched militarily and is not able to support Israel and Saudi Arabia... the largest armada seen in a long time is currently deployed to the Mediterranean. The John C. Stennis carrier strike group with like a 7 or more destroyer escort (1 German warship too) plus submarines is literally off the coast of Israel and launching around the clock strikes against ISIS targets along the Euphrates. If that doesn't show military commitment and capabilities then I don't know what else will. Pretty much more firepower in that strike group than any in other Navy or even air force in the region. They also just got to theater a few weeks ago...

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      • Turkey has completed its ring of 12 military observation posts spanning western Aleppo, Idlib & northern Hama.

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        • Originally posted by Lord Helmet View Post
          Whoever said the US is over stretched militarily and is not able to support Israel and Saudi Arabia... the largest armada seen in a long time is currently deployed to the Mediterranean. The John C. Stennis carrier strike group with like a 7 or more destroyer escort (1 German warship too) plus submarines is literally off the coast of Israel and launching around the clock strikes against ISIS targets along the Euphrates. If that doesn't show military commitment and capabilities then I don't know what else will. Pretty much more firepower in that strike group than any in other Navy or even air force in the region. They also just got to theater a few weeks ago...
          Not all of their targets have been ISIS along the Euphrates - And surely, such a battle group is hardly needed to finish off the last ISIS losers in Dez.

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          • It seems Iron dome was jammed. They just fired to the thin air.

            https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,...263430,00.html

            As usual for both sides, the first claim was about successful interception. Both sides are trusting they radar screens too much and a plume of smoke in the air proves nothing.

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            • Originally posted by LAworkerbee View Post

              Not all of their targets have been ISIS along the Euphrates - And surely, such a battle group is hardly needed to finish off the last ISIS losers in Dez.
              I think the show of force is pretty evident as you pretty much point out, the US is walking around with a big stick again. When you're bringing the largest fleet in the region all the way from across the other side of the world you're definitely making a statement. The bombing itself can be done by moving a couple squadrons of F-16s to Jordan or elsewhere in the region for a lot cheaper.

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              • Originally posted by Lord Helmet View Post

                I think the show of force is pretty evident as you pretty much point out, the US is walking around with a big stick again. When you're bringing the largest fleet in the region all the way from across the other side of the world you're definitely making a statement. The bombing itself can be done by moving a couple squadrons of F-16s to Jordan or elsewhere in the region for a lot cheaper.
                Exactly mi amigo.

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                • Massive explosions rocked the Hama military air base in western Syrian early on Friday afternoon, killing at least 11 pro-regime fighters, according to the UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.
                  Syrian state media confirmed that blasts were heard coming from the base, but made no comment on casualties or the cause of the explosions.
                  https://www.timesofisrael.com/huge-e...cause-unclear/

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                  • Looking at the pictures, that is a massive hit in that airbase. My bet is another Israeli air strike, a big one too. For secondary explosions to be that big they must have hit a lot of fuel and/or ammo. Probably a good amount of dead personnel too, logistical personnel would be my guess. A costly hit for sure. I'm still shocked how the SAA losses equipment and personnel week over week and they're still standing, got to give them that.

                    In other news, more equipment and armored vehicles being funneled to the SDF, as well as continued offensive along the Euphrates. You would think that in the coming weeks they should clear the area. Hopefully is the case so they can move towards the Iraqi border and do the same.

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                    • Its mostly Deir military council there, arab tribals from that area.

                      And their quality is not .... good. At all. Perhaps with the new goods US will push YPG to take charge in that offensive because DZM should have already cleared it.

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                      • no posts for 3 days? what's going on?

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                        • Originally posted by sagittario View Post
                          no posts for 3 days? what's going on?
                          The war is over.

                          IS surrendered.

                          No more active rebels.

                          Assad won.

                          Time to lock this thread. Thanks for the show.

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                          • Originally posted by sagittario View Post
                            no posts for 3 days? what's going on?
                            Socialism has been achieved and now we are running out of internet.

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                            • Originally posted by sagittario View Post
                              no posts for 3 days? what's going on?
                              The war has entered the end phase, nothing more to speak about unless there’s a new operation.

                              Also Damascus has been liberated fully, dealing a massive morale and strategic blow to the insurgents/militants/terrorists.

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                              • PR resources have shifted to other vectors.

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