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    This thread is for news and discussions.

    The first F-35 (AM-1) now has wheels. Two aircraft will be handed over to Norway by the end of 2015 and two more in 2016.

    https://forsvaret.no/aktuelt/f-35-star-pa-egne-hjul (use Google Translate)
    Last edited by Laser Shark; 21-04-2015, 06:19 AM.

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    Norwegian F-16 pilot with some interesting comments on aerial warfare and the F35:
    http://blogg.regjeringen.no/kampfly/...net/#more-1050

    Since the article is written in Norwegian, I will give a brief summary of what I found most interesting:

    From his experience with the F-16, having a helmet sight and missiles to take advantage of it makes the pilot less reliant on superior maneuverability in a dog fight. An aircraft with low RCS and good electronic countermeasures will also be detected at shorter ranges, than an aircraft that is lacking in these departments provided they have the same radar.

    The F-35 can operate at altitudes 10-15 000 feet higher than the F-16 and it has 30-70 % more combat range since it carries much of its fuel and weapons internally (good for aerodynamics). It also has a cruise speed that is 50-80 knots higher, which means that it can fire its missiles quicker since it doesn't have to accelerate that much (high speed = more range for the missile).
    Last edited by Laser Shark; 22-04-2015, 03:28 AM.

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    • #3
      The head of the F-35 joint program office, Lt. Gen. Chris Bogdan, praises Norwegian weapons:
      http://www.defensenews.com/story/def...pons/25944383/

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      • #4
        For those of you who want to enjoy Norwegian military photos, I'd recommend Forsvarets mediearkiv:
        https://forsvaret.no/mediearkiv

        Just click "Ja, jeg aksepterer bruksvilkårene" (Yes, I accept the terms of use).

        Terms of use:
        These photos are the property of the Norwegian Armed Forces and is protected by copyright.
        All photos must be credited to the Norwegian Armed Forces and the photographer who took them.
        The content must not be used commercially, distributed to a third party or stored in separate databases.
        The photos must not be manipulated or altered without the permission of Forsvarets mediesenter.
        You have to follow the Ethical Code of Practice for the Norwegian Press.

        Have fun!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Laser Shark View Post
          For those of you who want to enjoy Norwegian military photos, I'd recommend Forsvarets mediearkiv:
          https://forsvaret.no/mediearkiv

          Just click "Ja, jeg aksepterer bruksvilkårene" (Yes, I accept the terms of use).

          Terms of use:
          These photos are the property of the Norwegian Armed Forces and is protected by copyright.
          All photos must be credited to the Norwegian Armed Forces and the photographer who took them.
          The content must not be used commercially, distributed to a third party or stored in separate databases.
          The photos must not be manipulated or altered without the permission of Forsvarets mediesenter.
          You have to follow the Ethical Code of Practice for the Norwegian Press.

          Have fun!
          Outstanding content, thanks Laser Shark.

          How are DF of Norway set up now? Just like other Nordic countries - "we still have conscription but you don't have to go if you don't want to" kind of way?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by hythelday View Post
            How are DF of Norway set up now? Just like other Nordic countries - "we still have conscription but you don't have to go if you don't want to" kind of way?
            Yes, that's pretty much the case these days. The Defense Force is small and increasingly reliant on professional soldiers.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Laser Shark View Post

              Yes, that's pretty much the case these days. The Defense Force is small and increasingly reliant on professional soldiers.
              Well, at least there is a way to volunteer to proper armed forces, not some sunday-soldiers variant.

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              • #8
                Today the Norwegian Government submitted a proposal to the Storting. This is good news for the Army as it includes a modernization of the Leopard 2 fleet worth 2 680 MNOK and the acquisition of an air defense battery worth 900 MNOK.

                https://www.regjeringen.no/nb/dokume...navchap=1&ch=3
                Last edited by Laser Shark; 24-04-2015, 06:57 AM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Laser Shark View Post
                  For those of you who want to enjoy Norwegian military photos, I'd recommend Forsvarets mediearkiv:
                  That's a lot of great photos!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Laser Shark View Post
                    Today the Norwegian Government submitted a proposal to the Storting. This is good news for the Army as it includes a modernization of the Leopard 2 fleet worth 2 680 MNOK and the acquisition of an air defense battery worth 900 MNOK.

                    https://www.regjeringen.no/nb/dokume...navchap=1&ch=3

                    A combination of IRIS-T (IR) and AMRAAM (radar) should make a nice air defense battery for the army.

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                    • #11
                      I read the proposition and thought that only two tank squadrons sounded extremely little, but after thinking a bit Norway is not exactly the Fulda gap when it comes to tank territory, so it might possibly be the correct decision with only two mechanized battalions in the OOB. Is 2. Bataljon still considered light infantry BTW?

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                      • #12
                        Yes, 2nd Battalion is still a light infantry unit.

                        About the Leo 2 upgrade, it seems very expensive as we're supposedly paying 316 MEUR to upgrade 38 tanks whereas you guys got 100 Leo 2A6 for 200 MEUR...

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                        • #13
                          After Archer was cancelled in Dec 2013, a new competition was launched to decide what will become Norway's future artillery system. Apparently, we're down to 4 candidates:
                          PzH 2000 from KMW
                          Caesar from Nexter
                          K9 Thunder from Samsung Techwin
                          M109 KAWEST from RUAG

                          If everything goes according to plan, a contract will be signed next year and the old guns replaced (or upgraded) before 2020.

                          http://www.tu.no/industri/2015/04/30...-nye-artilleri

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                          • #14
                            Almost 5,000 soldiers from eleven allied nations, including Norway, will attend the NATO-led submarine hunt exercise "Dynamic Mongoose."Submarines, surface vessels, and aircraft will between 4th and 13th of May operate in the North Sea and Skagerrak. Nine frigates, two tankers, four submarines, three maritime patrol aircraft and a number of helicopters will take part in this exercise.
                            Last edited by Dompedidomp; 30-04-2015, 05:14 PM.

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                            • #15
                              I've decided to write some more about the Leo 2 upgrade...

                              As previously stated, only 38 tanks will be upgraded and the remaining 14 will be kept in storage for spares/a future upgrade/conversion to AVLB or AEV. The estimated cost is 316 MEUR, which seems very expensive, but I suppose it also includes an extensive support package. New ARVs have been approved as well, but I believe that is a separate project.

                              The full extent of the upgrade is not public yet, but this has been revealed so far:
                              - Digitalization and network integration, which will bring the tanks up to the level of the new CV90s. This includes a battlefield management system and a digital fire control system with the ability to fire programmable ammunition.
                              - The current thermal sight will be replaced by a new one with a laser range finder. A thermal sight for the commander will be installed as well.
                              - Protection of the crew will be improved with spall liners. In addition, the tanks will be prepared for a modular armor system against mines and other threats, but it seems that only a limited number will be equipped with this from the get-go.
                              - Other upgrades include an all-electric turret drive system, air-condition, an auxiliary power unit and (probably) a remote weapon station.

                              If everything goes according to plan, a contract should be signed with KMW, Rheinmetall or RUAG within a year or so.

                              Edit: My sources are Prop. 113 S (see post #8) and this article from Teknisk Ukeblad:
                              http://www.tu.no/industri/2015/03/24...stridsvogner11
                              Last edited by Laser Shark; 10-05-2015, 02:44 PM.

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