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  • Peace in our time moment. North didn't want to discuss the N word.

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    • Originally posted by primer View Post
      Peace in our time moment.
      The North will probably invade during the Winter Olympics. Why not? They've got away with everything else so far.

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      • Ha yea..they invited us.

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        • http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/vl...cfbb7e47ec6e0e
          VLADIMIR Putin believes North Korean despot Kim Jong-un has triumphed in his latest stand-off with Donald Trump over his nuclear missile program.
          According to The Sun, the Russian president labelled Kim a “competent and mature politician” saying he had “won this round” with the US president.
          "This round", while sanctions continue.

          Playing games around nuclear weapons seems to be a thing for the macho leaders.
          One thing in favour of Xi, Abe and Moon.

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          • Originally posted by primer View Post
            http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/vl...cfbb7e47ec6e0e


            "This round", while sanctions continue.

            Playing games around nuclear weapons seems to be a thing for the macho leaders.
            One thing in favour of Xi, Abe and Moon.
            I agree with Putin

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            • Are those comments verified?

              They seem out of place as Russian officials have condemned nuclear weapons testing and missile development.

              Not to mention voting for sanctions..

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              • Originally posted by primer View Post
                http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/vl...cfbb7e47ec6e0e


                "This round", while sanctions continue.

                Playing games around nuclear weapons seems to be a thing for the macho leaders.
                One thing in favour of Xi, Abe and Moon.
                Well Putin is correct
                Trump administration :" no talks with NK, deploy THAAD, send MAUs, sanction NK"
                and then NK and SK resume talks, re-open the red phone line (that was closed 2 y ago), NK is invited in the Olympics and all that over the head of USA
                Then US administration : "it's good SK and NK talk again and we won't do any scheduled maneuvers"

                Who had the political initiative here and who hadn't it ?

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                • Originally posted by Mordoror View Post

                  Well Putin is correct
                  Trump administration :" no talks with NK, deploy THAAD, send MAUs, sanction NK"
                  and then NK and SK resume talks, re-open the red phone line (that was closed 2 y ago), NK is invited in the Olympics and all that over the head of USA
                  Then US administration : "it's good SK and NK talk again and we won't do any scheduled maneuvers"

                  Who had the political initiative here and who hadn't it ?
                  so you are throwing your lot in with the North Koreans then? Good to know.
                  Last edited by commanding; 13-01-2018, 04:03 PM. Reason: go changed to "to"

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                  • He is "winning" as the goal, for decades has throw tantrums, buy time and continue to develop weapons to further nuclear blackmail. And to keep the family in power.

                    However, to call him a mature and competent politican is laughable.

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                    • Kim does´nt really have an opponent. China is protecting him (although with the extension of his nuclear capabilities it won´t be that necessary), and Russia enjoys seeing the US in trouble (although has no chance of replacing an ounce of US power in the region).

                      In the end, the access of a rogue state to nuclear capability and with deranged leadership is the fault of China...in a way, I hope China gets bitten by its recklessness to have blocked any proposals to fight the NK regime.

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                      • Originally posted by Kilgor View Post
                        He is "winning" as the goal, for decades has throw tantrums, buy time and continue to develop weapons to further nuclear blackmail. And to keep the family in power.

                        However, to call him a mature and competent politican is laughable.
                        Correction
                        He has won that round by increasing the credibility of the NK detterence, bypassing imposed isolation (to a minor extend but still) and gathering a political momentum
                        That doesn't say he will be successful with another stunt/round in the future
                        I only assessed the recent events

                        As for knowing if he is mature and competent, we shouldn't judge him by our western standards
                        Apparently, he managed to strenghten his own political position in the NK apparatus (while, as the third kid and youngest of Kim Jon Il, his position was far from secured)
                        He organized purges of internal opposition within the NK high level circles (sometimes violently and definitively)
                        In other words, for a young fatty that doesn't look so smart, he survived among sharks by terminating some of them, quelling others and playing chess with the last ones
                        It may be considered as a minimum of competence, especially knowing the violent political environment of NK
                        Or he is well protected by stronger political and military personnalities
                        I dunno but in any case, we should avoid to think he is a buffoon ala Saddam Hussein

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                        • Originally posted by Kilgor View Post
                          Are those comments verified?

                          They seem out of place as Russian officials have condemned nuclear weapons testing and missile development.

                          Not to mention voting for sanctions..
                          They came from the Sun, that's as good as having them written in his own blood by Putin himself.

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                          • Another boat.

                            http://www.businessinsider.com/north...8-1/?r=AU&IR=T

                            Another North Korean ghost ship, with seven bodies on board, has washed ashore

                            Surely that indicates what a nut job that runs it.

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                            • An event like something from the Fallout Series.

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                              • new North Korean missile system debuted during the military parade looks very much like the 9K720 Iskander

                                check the video 1hr 1 min 44 seconds it's uncanny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY1-u1ZkPus

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