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  • Originally posted by Guma View Post

    it is the first MiG-29 in Polish Air Force lost in crash in 30 years - pretty good record

    BTW rumors confirmed - pilot did not ejected
    Its plane with longest service record without crash in our air force.

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    • The Mig 29 is on no way an unsafe aircradt. Its shortcomungs are mainly due to its role as cold war frontline aircraft..

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      • Originally posted by Tantalwz88 View Post
        And BOOM literally, Poland wil become the latest user of HIMARS mlrs system.

        http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales...-system-himars
        Well its turning in to boom or more like poof. It looks again they hit same problem as Patriot. They wanted disproportional tech transfer and got U mad? response from Lockheed.

        https://www.tvp.info/35372941/homar-...ne-rozwiazania

        There are also talks that patriot negotiations are heading towards Poland opting out of some parts instead of US lowering price.

        Chopper procurement seem to be going nowhere fast as PiS wants to use delivery for propaganda before elections. Such short term is unacceptable if not simply impossible for producers.

        A contract was signed to procure two de-mining ships. Some media due to polish name meaning litteraly mine destroyer were trying to confuse public in to beliving we are going to build actual destroyers...
        Last edited by Asheren; 03-01-2018, 07:24 AM.

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        • Originally posted by Asheren View Post

          Well its turning in to boom or more like poof. It looks again they hit same problem as Patriot. They wanted disproportional tech transfer and got U mad? response from Lockheed.

          https://www.tvp.info/35372941/homar-...ne-rozwiazania
          I couldn't be more happy that IAI & IMI are back, Lynx and Lora are far more better for Poland not only in firepower but also in offset.

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          • Antonio "Loco" Macierewicz is no more, he has kicked the bucket, hopped the twig, bit the dust, snuffed it, Good riddance to him, the freeloading bastard! I hope he fries.

            and btw Polish MOD delegation just got back from Israel.

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            • Originally posted by Tantalwz88 View Post
              Antonio "Loco" Macierewicz is no more, he has kicked the bucket, hopped the twig, bit the dust, snuffed it, Good riddance to him, the freeloading bastard! I hope he fries.
              F yeah. We replaced incompetent paranoid dude thinking he knows army, with just incompetent dude who has no clue about army but beggars can't be chosers.

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              • Originally posted by Asheren View Post

                F yeah. We replaced incompetent paranoid dude thinking he knows army, with just incompetent dude who has no clue about army but beggars can't be chosers.

                Exactly - this means that most important defense programs will be deleyed even more. But Macierewicz knew a lot about army comparing to Błaszczak who is total layman.

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                • Treat it as a rummor but there are some talks recently that we will buy just 2 batteries of patriots without offset.

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                  • Hey szanowni panowie.
                    What the hell is going on with modernization. It seems to be a hamster wheel that just keeps spinning without really going anywhere.
                    - Missile defense is in constant state of negotiation.
                    - MON cannot decide what it wants US offer or Israeli and back and forth.
                    - Utility helicopters are a hot potato no one wants to deal with.
                    - MON cannot decide if it wants submarines with land attack capability or not and has been studying this topic for years to no conclusion.
                    - Program Mustang is again being rewritten because our leaders have needs no other army requires.
                    - Gawron is a mess over a decade in the making.
                    - Wisla is also at a stand still.


                    This state of affairs is endemic to the greater lack of political sophistication and maturity by our leadership. How are we ever to defend the borders when are enemies are modernizing but we remain at a standstill. To match our military capability deficiency we need to be outpace the modernization of foreign threats.

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                    • Originally posted by Tantalwz88 View Post

                      I couldn't be more happy that IAI & IMI are back, Lynx and Lora are far more better for Poland not only in firepower but also in offset.
                      IAI is a much better option for us with broader range of capabilities compared with HIMARS.
                      I haven't heard anything about this deal in long time. Any recent updates?

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                      • Polish Phase I MIM-104 Patriot configuration.

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                        • Polish Army received first Warmate combat drones. It's micro-class drone made by Polish company WB Electronics. Warmate is designed to make ,,kamikaze" attacks against enemy targets, inluding armoured vehicles.

                          Some technical data:
                          Operational ceiling: 20-300 meters, maximum: 500 meters
                          Max speed: 150 km/h
                          Max flight time: 30 minutes
                          Range: 10 km
                          The HEAT warhead makes it possible to penetrate up to 240 millimetres of armour in case of a direct hit.

                          It can be attached to larger drones and attack as a swarm, overloading enemy defence systems.

                          In total Polish Army ordered 1000 drones of this class.

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                          • Originally posted by Tantalwz88 View Post
                            Polish Phase I MIM-104 Patriot configuration.

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                            ​Seem to be fiting talks about only two batteries...

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                            • Originally posted by Asheren View Post

                              ​Seem to be fiting talks about only two batteries...
                              Waiting for the LTAMDS...maybe 2020.

                              btw: "Warmate" loitering munition last moments before impact.

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                              • Ministry of interior was recently caught red handed trying to buy two black hawks without procurement. The variant is same as one that was offered to Polish army.

                                ​PiS is under growing pressure by their ally Solidarity workers union that has significant foothold in Mielec plant owned by Sikorski. It seem they were trying to test waters with smaller procurement but after Caracal fail there is a lot of peoples watching their hands.

                                Airbus has immediately responded with legal action against PiSdiot government in Poland and in EU.
                                Last edited by Asheren; 14-05-2018, 11:57 AM.

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