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  • Baltics To Ask NATO For Thousands Of Troops

    VILNIUS — The Baltic states will formally ask NATO to deploy several thousand troops as a deterrent to Russia, Lithuania said Thursday, but the alliance gave no assurance that the request would be accepted.
    NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said at meeting of the alliance's foreign ministers in the Turkish city of Antalya that he was aware such a request was being made but emphasized it was too early to assess the demand.
    "We are seeking a brigade-size unit so that every Baltic nation would have a battalion," military spokesman Lithuanian Captain Mindaugas Neimontas told AFP.
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    Last edited by TheKiwi; 17-05-2015, 06:33 PM. Reason: No more than first two sentences of article.

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    Is it something reasonable? Or if it's at all likely, would it just make more sense to place such units in Poland, so that's it's close but not too much of a controversial placement.?

    Any chance of non-US troops? Like a British or French battalion?

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    • #3
      To make any difference, you would need at least a division in each country.. and that's not going to happen.

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      • #4
        Will they help pay for the deployment or will the country providing the troops bear the full cost of deployment? If they will, I'd be inclined to do it. If not, I'd put them in Poland where they would be close enough to help, but where we already have some bases to avoid some costs.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by The Dane View Post
          To make any difference, you would need at least a division in each country.. and that's not going to happen.
          But would we really need that? Their role would just be a tripwire wouldn't it or at least a QRF to assist the local forces while NATO takes a week to decide what to do.

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          • #6
            Paranoia + populism + true belief hurt psyche very much. I wonder who is supposed to be paying for this party? Sprats? Or someone else's poor taxpayers?

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            • #7
              Not to be funny but 1) Where do they think these troops ar going to come from, 2) where would they be based, 3) who's going to foot the bill for them?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Al-Romo View Post
                Paranoia + populism + true belief hurt psyche very much. I wonder who is supposed to be paying for this party? Sprats? Or someone else's poor taxpayers?
                Maybe it's more realistic for the Baltic nations to pay for protection than to up their own defensive capabilities?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by QuaPatetOrbis View Post
                  Maybe it's more realistic for the Baltic nations to pay for protection than to up their own defensive capabilities?
                  Protection against whom? Against polite people who are supposedly going to conduct referendums among local pro-russian separatists™? They've been treating local russian population as second-class non-citizens for almost 30 years and now they became suddendly afraid that these people would not be patriotic or kind to them in case of some turmoil? Genious policy!
                  Last what I heard about this shyte is that Latvia + some other cool boys (btw, take a look on how many Russians live in Riga and try to find out how many RU-lang schools have been already closed in Estonia so far) were going to request EU (which was giving no f**k to this segregation) to devote funds on creating RU-lang TV channel aimed on informing russophone population both in Russia and abroad, therefore countering Russian State Propaganda and Army of Putin-paid Trolls™.

                  Most propably they took a look on Ukraine, saw how painfully segregation and struggle with your own history can bite one's butt and thus went insanely scared.
                  Last edited by Al-Romo; 16-05-2015, 01:43 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dominique View Post
                    Not to be funny but 1) Where do they think these troops ar going to come from, 2) where would they be based, 3) who's going to foot the bill for them?
                    Nobody. That's the magic of the thing. Baltic states are always whining for more but not ready to put the hands in the pockets.
                    Each NATO country involved in Baltic Air Police is already using its own planes, crews and equipments on their own dime.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mordoror View Post
                      Nobody. That's the magic of the thing. Baltic states are always whining for more but not ready to put the hands in the pockets.
                      Each NATO country involved in Baltic Air Police is already using its own planes, crews and equipments on their own dime.
                      Actually Baltic states' yearly are paying 9 million € to NATO for Baltic Air policing, plus they're covering all airfields maintenance costs.

                      Originally posted by Al-Romo View Post
                      Protection against whom?
                      Guys like you!

                      Originally posted by Al-Romo View Post
                      They've been treating local russian population as second-class non-citizens for almost 30 years
                      Have you been there or just heard on Россия 1?

                      Originally posted by Al-Romo View Post
                      take a look on how many Russians live in Riga
                      Could you be so nice and explain how over additional 700000 Russians, 92000 Belarussians and 90000 Ukrainians end up there during the Soviet times (in a country with 2,5 millions, including those 882000)?
                      Last edited by Miller2; 16-05-2015, 02:26 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Poweruser View Post
                        Could you be so nice and explain how over additional 700000 Russians, 92000 Belarussians and 90000 Ukrainians end up there during the Soviet times (in a country with 2,5 millions, including those 882000)?

                        Teleported from the Warp with biggest bulk of your industry et al Magic!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Poweruser View Post
                          Actually Baltic states' yearly are paying 9 million € to NATO for Baltic Air policing, plus they're covering all airfields maintenance costs.

                          Have you been there or just heard on Россия 1?
                          Shhh, you'll make Mordoror upset.

                          I am slightly leaning towards him hearing that on "Россия 1" and just repeating what he heard.
                          Last edited by CaucasianAsian; 16-05-2015, 02:37 PM.

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                          • #14
                            9 million EUR out of how many total expenses? Because that was the main point. Very sensitive considering that situation with Greece and other greater goods.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Al-Romo View Post

                              Teleported from the Warp with biggest bulk of your industry et al Magic!
                              For me it's Generalplan Ost realized by Soviets in 2 times bigger timespan than in Nazis' plan, because in 1989 only 52% of Latvians were left at country.

                              Originally posted by The Dane View Post
                              To make any difference, you would need at least a division in each country.. and that's not going to happen.
                              There's no need for 3 divisions. Battalion for the each country is more than enough. Even Zbigniew Brzezinski agrees on that.

                              Originally posted by Al-Romo View Post
                              9 million EUR out of how many total expenses?
                              Purely depends on Russian AF activity.
                              Last edited by Miller2; 16-05-2015, 03:19 PM. Reason: Added 2 additional responses

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