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  • https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-...ntryman-badge/

    Six of the Army’s first female airborne grunts hit another milestone in November, when they earned their Expert Infantryman Badges at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. The women were among 287 successful soldiers out of 1,007 who began the testing on Nov. 14, 82nd Airborne Division spokesman Lt. Col. Joe Buccino told Army Times on Wednesday.


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    • The folly spreads...good thing the other "50" percent of the population is pouring into to fill the 'man-power' shortage...Yes, go on the front-lines to kill the enemy (or be killed) get minimal sleep, eat on occasion, & shower seldom. A great career opportunity! Hope you like it.

      https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-...nfantry-armor/

      In the two years since the Army lifted its ban on women serving in infantry and armor jobs, more than 150 have joined formations on two of the service’s largest installations. Now, the Army is opening up three more posts for potential assignment.


      They are the 101st Airborne Division at Fort Campbell, Kentucky, the 4th Infantry Division at Fort Carson, Colorado, and the 1st Armored Division at Fort Bliss, Texas, an Army Forces Command spokesman confirmed to Army Times.

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      • Originally posted by haze99 View Post
        The folly spreads...good thing the other "50" percent of the population is pouring into to fill the 'man-power' shortage...Yes, go on the front-lines to kill the enemy (or be killed) get minimal sleep, eat on occasion, & shower seldom. A great career opportunity! Hope you like it.

        https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-...nfantry-armor/

        In the two years since the Army lifted its https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2015/12/03/combat-jobs-the-moss-now-opening-to-women-in-the-army"]ban[/URL] on women serving in https://www.militarytimes.com/2015/12/03/all-combat-jobs-open-to-women-in-the-military"]infantry and armor jobs[/URL], more than 150 have joined formations on two of the service’s https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2017/05/19/18-women-graduate-from-the-army-s-first-gender-integrated-infantry-basic-training"]largest installations[/URL]. Now, the Army is opening up three more posts for potential assignment.


        They are the 101st Airborne Division at Fort Campbell, Kentucky, the 4th Infantry Division at Fort Carson, Colorado, and the 1st Armored Division at Fort Bliss, Texas, an Army Forces Command spokesman confirmed to Army Times.
        Over 150?! With or without addopted standaards? I'm sure those 150 are a world if difference of the US military.. Periods, births and logistical addoptations are probebly worth it.

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        • Originally posted by Jumper View Post

          Over 150?! With or without addopted standaards? I'm sure those 150 are a world if difference of the US military.. Periods, births and logistical addoptations are probebly worth it.
          https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/new...ium=Socialflow
          Two years after the Defense Department ordered the Marine Corps to open all combat arms career fields to women, less than 100 women have successfully entered those previously male-only jobs.


          A total of 92 women are operating in a multitude of combat billets across the Corps, from rifleman to armored reconnaissance to combat engineers.


          Yet only 11 enlisted women are serving today in the traditional “03” infantry career fields, Marine Corps officials said. No women have even attempted the Basic Reconnaissance Course or Amphibious Reconnaissance Course, and there are no female snipers, according to data provided by Manpower and Reserve Affairs.
          Of the women serving in combat billets, most of them are in less physically demanding roles such as light air defense and artillery, commonly referred to as a non-load bearing job field, according to data obtained by Marine Corps Times.



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          • You could do a million push ups, but if you can't swim really good no chance at anything recon related. Not saying that is making a dent on women attempting recon, but just some general knowledge.

            03XX implies a tough life and puts some serious grind on the body. Women are generally physically smaller than men, really tough to thrive in that lifestyle so no surprise at the few 03XX women. Hell I'm only 27 years old and have been out of the service for not even six years and I'm already having to see chiropractors and physical therapists due to neck and back issues. I can tell you I didn't have those issues before I enlisted.

            At the end of the day women in the infantry was just a political move. Waste of money doing "research" too.

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            • 1. https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/y..._source=clavis

              New mothers who have given birth on or after March 6 will not have to deploy for a full year under new Air Force rules.

              The Post-Pregnancy Deployment Deferment is being expanded from the previous six months. Air Force Secretary Deborah Lee James announced the expansion of the deployment from the previous six months in a March 4 address outlining several initiatives to increase the service's diversity. (diversity!?) What on earth does that have to do with national defense? If Airmen X is now out of the deployment cycle due to child-birth, guess whose going in her place...you!


              Since the USA is throwing away trillions of dollars on useless programs, illegal aliens (non-citizens) and overseas nation building, why stop now.

              2. https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/y...female-pilots/

              It’s been 25 years since female pilots were allowed in combat roles in the Air Force, but it’s taking a little longer for their equipment to catch up.

              “What we’re finding is that women have been flying for years wearing gear that’s been designed for men,” Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Dave Goldfein told Air Force Times during a March 8 editorial board meeting at the Pentagon.

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              • And since people seem to think being a front-line soldier is the same as working as an accountant in an office or putting widgets together on a factory assembly line, etc, We come to this point.

                1. https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-...tandards-near/

                For as long as there has been an Army Physical Fitness Test, experts both inside and outside of the Army have known that the three events therein did not really measure how a soldier would perform in the Army’s most essential environment: combat. H'17: true, however the physiology of men and women has not changed, so to believe otherwise is foolishness. What 'matrix' are you going to produce that both sexes can be compared as 'equal' to in accomplishing various tasks?

                But it was easy to train for and easy to administer, so it endured, despite protestations that push-ups and sit-ups measure the same thing, muscular endurance, and not strength, agility or any other domain of fitness.

                2. https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/y...tacp-training/

                The sixth female airman to try to become a tactical air control party airman has dropped out, the Air Force said last week. Air Education and Training Command spokeswoman 1st Lt. Geneva Croxton said that the unidentified airman “self-eliminated” and is no longer in the pipeline.


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                • https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-...ership-school/

                  It all started back in 2016, when the secretary of defense extended maternity leave for female service members from six to 12 weeks. It was a relief for women in the Army, especially those trying to find a way to advance in the ranks while raising a family.

                  But for some mid-grade officers, it turned into a road block ― a disqualification from attending an in-residence course that would prepare them to take battalion command or work as battalion, brigade or division staff officers, in addition to earning a master’s degree.

                  It was a particularly rude awakening a year ago, for three women who reported to the Command and General Staff College at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.

                  *And this case, is just academic training, not a front-line unit that has to deploy...

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                  • https://www.military.com/kitup/2018/...-new-moms.html

                    The U.S. Air Force has given new mothers approval to wear a special breastfeeding T-shirt under either the Airman Battle Uniform or Operational Camouflage Uniform.

                    Officials this month approved the T-shirt, which comes in both long- and short-sleeve versions, has a chest opening, and adheres to Air Force Instruction 36-2903, Dress and Personal Appearance of Air Force Personnel, according to a recent service release

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                    • https://www.militarytimes.com/pay-be...y-study-finds/

                      Within a year after suffering a combat-related injury in Iraq or Afghanistan, 40 percent of military women were diagnosed with a mental health condition, according to a new study.

                      Of particular concern is that enlisted women were more likely to have a diagnosis of a mental health disorder and had “significantly lower quality of life” than the women officers studied, said Judy Dye, a researcher with the Naval Health Research Center, in a presentation to the Military Health System Research Symposium Tuesday.

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                      • Originally posted by haze17 View Post
                        Of particular concern is that enlisted women were more likely to have a diagnosis of a mental health disorder and had “significantly lower quality of life” than the women officers studied, said Judy Dye, a researcher with the Naval Health Research Center, in a presentation to the Military Health System Research Symposium Tuesday.
                        I'll lay money that the same applies to male enlisted ranks - both mental health issues and quality of life.

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                        • Originally posted by Royal View Post

                          I'll lay money that the same applies to male enlisted ranks - both mental health issues and quality of life.
                          News flash, infantry personnel have even lower quality of life and more mental health issues than noncombat arms. Not sure how the officer and enlisted divide and differences in quality of living are even newsworthy. Starting with their basic pay, a college intern makes more in a month than an US troop ranks E-3 or below.

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                          • Originally posted by Lord Helmet View Post

                            News flash, infantry personnel have even lower quality of life and more mental health issues than noncombat arms. Not sure how the officer and enlisted divide and differences in quality of living are even newsworthy. Starting with their basic pay, a college intern makes more in a month than an US troop ranks E-3 or below.

                            You're newsflashing an infantryman. His name is Royal for a reason.

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                            • My comments aren't aimed an individual member of the forum, its at the study that was made. Its literally indicating stuff that everyone already knew long time ago.

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                              • The bottom line (thanks to 0bama, Ash Carter and those of their ilk) is that men and women are the same, just having different genitalia. Which is patently false. But, as the Brits say, carry on!

                                1. https://www.army.mil/article/210835/..._ranger_school

                                FORT BENNING, Ga. -- "This is it. Number one on my list of worst days at Ranger School," 1st Lt. Anna Hodge thought as it started to rain again during day eight of Mountain Phase patrols. The blisters on her feet, the chaffing on her legs, and the prickly heat stung with the rain. She stuffed more pieces of MRE gum in her mouth, biting down hard to keep her mind off the pain.

                                "Your complaint has been duly noted and will be answered within 24 to 48 hours," she mentally responded to the pain, imitating an answering machine. "Now back to counting steps, 1,344, 1,345...

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                                https://www.military.com/kitup/2018/08/24/female-marine-recruits-get-unisex-dress-coat-5-years-after-first-tests-began.html

                                After years of wear tests and surveys, about 100 female Marine recruits have been issued a new dress blues coat that looks more like the one men wear.

                                Members of 4th Recruit Training Battalion's Papa Company were the first women to receive the new coats during their initial uniform issue this week at Marine Corps Recruit Depot Parris Island, South Carolina. Officials there posted photos of the event to the training depot's social media pages.

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